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During this year’s SXSW Music Conference,  Nas and his former manager-turned-brand marketing mogul Steve Stoute sat down to discuss a variety of topics, including writing for Will Smith and his conflict with the late Tupac Shakur.

“That night was crazy because his Makaveli album had all this buzz that ‘Pac was coming for New York,” Nas says of the night he met Pac at a MTV Awards party in New York City. “Death Row was in the building [but] there was nobody that represented for New York at that party…when I saw him we go to the bottom of it…it was a very dangerous situation but greater heads prevailed…I was scheduled to meet him in Vegas…it’s touchy to talk on because he’s not here…”

Nas also discussed ghostwriting for Will Smith. Stoute admits that he just wanted Nas to write for the movie star to get the publishing money.

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