I have to disagree with both of them on this one. While the murder rate, crime rate and poverty is really bad in Chicago more than 100,000 people died in Haiti and its been the poorest country in the western hemisphere way before the earthquake. That is not to say that the South Side has its problems but Haiti is a different world.
Ummmmm no nigga The Southside of Chicago is the Southside of Chicago, I bet if these American born rappers( Just cuz you are half of somethin doesn’t make u that) went to their “respected” countries they would get kidnapped, extorted, and killed. so think bout that before u holla out that u mix wit somethin but never even been to outside of America
Yung_pimpin…..what does that have to do with anything that was said in the video? And for the record, I very much agree with what Lupe said. Being from Detroit, you can see how comparisons can be made to third world countries in terms of how desolate the city is and how bad things look with straight up abandoned and burned out buildings everywhere. Entire city blocks with one or two houses sitting on the whole block occupied while there is just open field and nothingness around. S**t is very much comparable.
@ Detroit_ReMM, So u mean to tell me that livin in Detroit or any other hood, project or blocc can compare to livin in a 3rd world country, if thats the case we need to send donations to the State of Detroit
There is no way in hell you can compare a third world country to any hood. Me havin West indian roots (St. Lucian) i been there and seen the nasty of the nasty.. hood negros would wanna run home back to the jects quicc. Now what should be said or done on behalf of what Lupe is sayin i feel there needs to be more support at home.. I mean i feel bad for the Haitians but what support are we gettin here to more better educate the people of all colors in our ghettos and hoods here and clean our neighborhoods before we do all this foreign policy crap. What about New Orleans when Katrina hit.. they didnt get half the help or publicity Haiti is gettin now. BS!
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Anyone would be a fool not to agree with what the man is saying. Were not talking SCALE here, but the conditions. Poverty, hopelessness and neglect are the main factors for “ghetto”. Certainly there are varying degrees, but like most things, you instantly recognize it when you see it. Whether you’re in parts of Detroit, Chicago, NY, Philly, Haiti (don’t sleep, because Haiti has some of the most beautiful areas in the world. Most of US don’t even know that) Johannesburg, etc. All those cities have there severe disparities of haves and have nots, and its not too different where ever you go. I have a question for you Casey. Have you ever traveled outside of the US to see what Lupe is actually talking about?
I can agree with Lupe but not with no racist. Lupe can say its “like” Haiti in comparsion with drugs,rape,babies been born and shootings. But I agree with you The_West_Coast, I’ve been tellin people before Katrina, before the whole earthquake in Haiti that their is no comparison “hood” wise with America and other countries. Haiti is the real hood, they eat monkey, dry dirt from the ground aint none of that happening over here. Here in America you dont have to walk miles to get water thats not even really clean to begin with. Like Wclef said, “I come from a hunt”, and “what you know about birthday cakes made out of dirt”!
We’ve been needing help in our own communities but nothings been done, youth aint even seein 18 anymore.
KNOW SOME POOREST AREAS IN CT TOO, HAITI DO GOT IT RUFF
BUT WOW THE NEWS MEDIA KNOW HOW TO SHOW THEM FINE FEMALES(18 AND OVER)
DOWN THERE IN HAITI, SO FAR I HAVE SEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF FINE LADIES DOWN THERE WOWOWOWOWOW
and all the other hatahs, two fingers fo yuh. First of all, im Haitian-American, born in the U.S. but im always bouncing back and fourth since I have family back there. We do not eat monkeys, that’s the most ignorant comment I have ever heard anyone say, I think the genius that said it should educate herself. FIRST INDEPENDENT BLACK NATION TO GAIN ITS INDEPENDENCE. GAINED OUR INDEPENDENCE, NO HELP FROM THE WHITE MAN. Kicked them out again when they came back with napolean’s Army. First of all BUT not everyone is poor, there are middle class and elite upper class, u will find mansions, beach houses, condos in places like Jacmel, Petitionville, O’kap, Beaches on the southwest half of the island, and a handful of other places but it is true that alot of people live off of $2.00 or less a day BUT alot of people really don’t need money since they fish, eat mangoes, fruit, sugarcane, coconuts, and various other foods that are abundant on the island. It definitely is a poor island for the most part, the poorest eat mudcakes but that’s just life, all about survival. I wish people would educate themselves instead of just talking.
I appreciate what ImTheTruth45 has to say – I’ve been all around the world including Hispanola (on the DR side) and I’ve worked on community organizing in some of the scariest places Boston and NYC have to offer. Poverty sucks, I remember days when I ate a cup of rice and tape water and that was all, so broke my hair was falling out. But no, Chicago’s Southside ain’t even close to the problems that Haiti have right now. People can squat in all those foreclosed buildings in Chitown, the buildings ain’t standing in Port-au-Prince; and if they are, threat of aftershocks make them useless for shelter.
Foreign Aid is not where US gov’t wastes all its money, it wastes it on wars and weapons. We could spend a hell of a lot less money on foreign aid and domestic aid building schools, a smartgrid and renewable energy generation. You want to talk about waste, the whole damn country is wasteful from the mansions to the hood – try supporting a resource recovery industry instead of a waste industry and you’ll put at least 5 times more people to work and do a lot less damage to the planet.
Hell you want to know what you can do? Plant some trees all over the hood – what the hell do you think Wangari Maathai got her Nobel Peace Prize for? Hell, just talking about putting one foot in front of another to help you and your community had a lot to do with why Obama got his prize too. Do something, make something happen. If you’re whole damn hood is falling apart, figure out a way to make it better and then go make some demands on the fools that rep for you in the halls of gov’t – tell ‘em what you need to make it happen, don’t wait for them to come up with good ideas to help you, ’cause that ain’t how it works.
@ImTheTruth45 maybe I dont know alot of history behide Haiti and I ment no disrespect to you or your people. And I do believe that there is rich parts of Haiti, but I was only speaking about the part that was hit by the earth quake. I watched Oprah and Wclef metion the situations in the poorest parts of Haiti I was only goin by what I heard on television. Sorry that you took offense but I’m not the type to think that I’m above or better than anyone!
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He isn’t the first and probably won’t be the last to make that comparison. As far back as a lot of the pro-Black thinkers and activists from the 60′s – 70′s, a lot of them compared the innercities of America to colonies and third world countries. I am sure they weren’t the first to say that either.
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First off, I feel bad about Haiti but dam man shyt is still f’d up here too in America. Just because America has money doesn’t mean the people get it. They have poverty in Haiti yes but so does anywhere else. Last time I checked Haiti DIDN’T RANK IN THE TOP TEN POOREST COUNTRIES. Haiti has more than Congo, Central Africa, Niger, etc etc….how much did,America, Britain or Haiti do to help them? Notta. Like I said, that was a bad situation but there are worse.
As a person that has traveled the world and seen fcuked up poverty. There is no comparison to 3rd or 4th world poverty to US ghetto poverty.
Before the Hatian earthquake I was reading news stories of some hatians eating dirt pies to aleviate hunger. I dont know any poor black folks in the southside Chicago, Newark, LA, Oakland, Detroit who are in such dire conditions where they cannot get a hot meal. And we in the US have the option of mobility to move to a different geographical area for better opportunity, there is no where for a Hatian stuck on the island to go if he/she is not able to immigrate to another country.
Lupe is a d0uchbag.
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@SenorCafe
WTH really so u think its that simple for people to just pack up and move? I know people with low paying jobs that don’t have the means or know how’s to relocate and start over. Katrina left hundreds of people homeless and even to this day they still are. The same way you say that Americans can just up and go to better resources, why don’t Haitians move to the richer more resourceful part of Haiti…..SMH
The thing is people born into poverty, many of the don’t know any other way to live.
The southside of Chicago (my hometown) is not like Haiti. F**king idiots. Its dangerous now-a-days anywhere you go. You can be sitting in your living room and get struck in the head by a bullet. Research people…get to it.
Its all good, dont believe in everything u see on TV. The media has its own agenda, always remember that. Ill give some quick facts about my people. Dont listen to that garbage people try to say about Haitians sometimes, how we eat monkeys and cats and we are all into voodoo and all that bull, its not true. Our island is plentiful with sugar canes, mangoes, coconuts, papayas, oranges, fish, chickens, etc., only the very poor of the poor actually do desperate things like eat mud cakes, mostly those people in cite soleil area of Port-au-Prince but put yourself in their shoes, what would u do if u couldnt find yourself, let alone your child. WE ARE THE FIRST INDEPENDENT BLACK NATION. My descendents fought christopher columbus and the europeans back, sent them packing back to europe, even when napoleans great Army came to retake Haiti, we sent them back too. The vast majority of Haitians are christian (catholic, protestant, 7th day Adventist, etc., some Haitians do follow voodoo but that’s not the majority. Anyways, it is true, Haiti isnt the poorest country in the world or in the top 10 poorest in the world BUT it is the poorest in the western hemisphere (our hemisphere) and the U.S. being the only superpower in the world has an obligation to help. This earthquake in my mind has been a blessing in disguise, hopefully this can lead to a rebuilding effort (Haitians/International community) which will lead to a more secure future for Haiti, as well as the Caribbean.
“The same way you say that Americans can just up and go to better resources, why don’t Haitians move to the richer more resourceful part of Haiti”
I say:
Haiti is the size of 1 small state, the richer and resourceful part of Haiti land area is limited its about 120 miles from end to end , the country is deforested from years of land abuse, the industries that can support people are limited, education is a luxury that has to be paid out your pocket for the most basic. There is no comparison to any Ghetto in the USA to the conditions of Haiti.
As far as Katrina victims still being homeless 3 years after the fact I guess those who are still homeless didn’t have enough common sense to pack up and go to greener pastures, they had nothing to lose since they were homeless and could have brought a Grayhound ticket to attempt to repair their lives in another location, I cant feel sorry for them.
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Hold on I_Stay_True_2Me…what show were you watching that said they eat monkey and dry dirt? You dam sure didn’t hear neither one of them say that. In fact I doubt you heard anyone say that, so don’t blame Oprah and Wyclef for your ignorance. Unless you’re 6 years old, you should already know not to believe all the nonsense you hear on TV. I repeat, Oprah and Wyclef should not be blamed for your ignorance, that’s on you.
Some people just shouldn’t open their f**king mouths. If you don’t know s**t about Haiti personally, why comment? Monkeys? Damn ignorance is bliss.
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First of all every single negative thing Lupe said about 3rd world countries happens here in the US..too its just that due to Greed..there is alot more wealth built up here now so things done by the government does not have a transparent effect on the population as it does in 3rd world nations. Better believe corruption is chocking throughout this nation! Lupe is intelligent so all you guys Nagging on him, just listen to the interview carefully! p.s Coming from a guy raised in the 3rd world nation :)
WTF is this nlgga talkin bout??
only time you move yo mouth when you have a mike is when you rappin skateboard nlgger!!
WTF these rappers dum azz fuk now-a-days…we had the conscience rap KRS 1–Rakim–2Short–Slick Rick–MC Lyte–Queen Latifah–RUN DMC–BIG DADDY KANE–KOOL G RAP–PUBLIC ENEMY–ICE CUBE–GHETTO BOYS WTF dem simple azz fukers kno bout FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET
rebel without a pause the Live Version
Ghetto both of em Rakim and 2Shorts
KRS 1 first 3 ALBUMS…U must Learn…Come 2 Teach’ya…My Philosophy…Part Time Sucka…luvs gone get’cha
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Southside of the Chi is no comparison 2 HAITI they fukin Killed 4 they OWN LAND THAT THEY GOVERN!! the fuk U do pussee? skateboard Rap? TF iz dat? yea we got weak azz nlgger that work with the POLICE on the Southside so the Violence impedes the Agenda at hand….pay attention!! I hate when these pussee’s get on here talkin bout “how they gone help them when we need it over here at home” thats just what they want 2 hear nlgger in disarray no type of solidarity amongst you squirrels backstabbin 2 swallow nut
I dont really care how ignorant you think I am, I’ve already discussed the situation and “ignornance” of not having a full understanding of the Haitian history and people with I’mTheTruth45. And no I’m not tryin to blame Oprah or Wyclef for my misleading information. I am davastated about what happen in the country of Haiti, I was only trying to put out the comparisons between our countries cities vs Haiti, and I’ve admitted that it was put in the most degrading way. I’m human and you would be lyin to yourself if you said you’ve never said or done something that you felt was in the wrong.
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First off @MR_NANASTROKER-man what in the hell did u just say? @SenorCafe-I’m just sayin last time I checked we are still f’d up over here in America…believe it or not, not that many haitians are like what’s being portrayed on T.V….but its wrong for u to think its easy for the poor to pick up and leave like that. I don’t know many people that grow up with dreams of living with poverty, but shyt happens like that, where it’s beyond our control. I know Haitians that won’t help other Haitias out. I don’t see many of them trying to get them out of a poverty stricken country. I don’t know about you but I help out ANYBODY that needs my help. I can’t continue to fill sorry for Haiti, especially when there are others who need help more…I’m not mad before you think so by reading this
Lupe & O’Reilly? They BOTH have NEVER LIED! There are 3 sick generation’s of Ill-Ness rumping in that area like they are livin in a F**en Jungle or something! UP until I moved among those folks/fool’s at the age of 48, I NEVER had to live in situation/circ**stance whereas I had to have, “An Alarm on my residence, An Alarm on my Car & get a Registered Pistol +Plus+ Carry 3 Lbs of Steel on my person as I went to & from! NEVER in my 48 Year’s had I had to live like that! Sadly when I found the resources to walk away, move on, there are some great people left & you folk’s can 1st & foremost BLAIM HUD for giving that sick mentality a FREE PASS for housing, then you can BLAIM the Greedy Home/Property Owners for renting to folk & NOT doing background checks on them! When they tore down the Projects in Chicago those folk’s were GIVEN, “Section-8/Housing Choice,” Vouchers & you had People in the Business of Real Estate looking at those fast & easy $Bucks from HUD$ & they jumped on top of it, left their neighbors for dead while allowing their property values to go down +Plus+ their lives in danger! It’s sick folk’s believe me when I tell you! SICK!!!
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