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A while ago we put up a gallery called the Top 10 Most Overrated MCs [click here to read] and we pissed a lot of y’all off with our selections. Listening to you, our readers, we took your suggestions and put your opinion together for BP’s Top 10 Most Overrated MCs list [click here to read].

That didn’t do much to calm your anger about ‘Pac being on the list and KING Magazine is adding fuel to the fire with their own ‘8 Rap Facts.’

Check out this excerpt below:

Sure there is plenty of ‘real talk’ but few instances of mind-boggling verses or innovative flows. Can you honestly admit that he is a better rapper than, say, Big Pun?! Tupac is the epitome of conviction over diction.

Now, maybe if you raise enough hell, KING will let BlackPlanet list its own ’8 Rap Facts.’ If you haven’t checked out our Top 10 Most Overrated MCs gallery, be sure to check it out below:


What are YOUR ’8 Rap Facts’?! Was KING right?! Share your thoughts in the comments section!

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Imasexyred/ Imasexyred

    They want to say this now when Pac is long gone. So cowardice. We all know if they’d of publish such a thing while he was alive- they’d be non-existent. So like the previous one downplaying Tupac’s talent- *YAWNS*!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Bdub386/ Bdub386

    i wish people would get off pac dick he was great now let him rest everytime i turn around they talkin bout pac was the greastest or he was overrated well he was good very good but now he’s gone so R.I.P

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/darknsmooth74/ darknsmooth74

    I totally disagree with that. I wasn’t the biggest 2Pac fan, but in terms of this dude’s impact he can’t be denied. 2Pac wasn’t the greatest lyricist in the world, but what he lacked in wordplay he more than made up for it with sheer passion and energy. Hate him or love him, he made you take notice and listen and that’s the epitomy of what being an MC is all about. He touched lives and he made people take action. Rakim said M.C. means move the crowd and that’s exactly what Pac did. Be it a crowd of protesters or a crowd on the dance floor. When Pac spoke, the people moved.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Godz_1st_Gangsta_Son/ Godz_1st_Gangsta_Son

    wHO EVER WROTE THIS SHYT NEED TO LISTEN TO THE COUNTLESS PAC VERSUES.IT WASNT PAC FLOW BUT PAC MESSAGE AND ENERGY
    AND THE MOST ILLEST VS EVER
    I ain’t a killer but don’t push me
    Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to gettin p***y
    Picture paragraphs unloaded, wise words bein quoted
    Peeped the weakness int he rap game and sewed it
    Bow down, pray to God hoping that he’s listenin
    Seein niggaz comin for me, to my
    diamonds, when they glistenin
    Now pay attention, rest in peace father
    I’m a ghost in these killin fields
    Hail Mary catch me if I go, let’s go deep inside
    the solitary mind of a madman who screams in the dark
    Evil lurks, enemies, see me flee
    Activate my hate, let it break, to the flame
    Set trip, empty out my clip, never stop to aim
    Some say the game is all corrupted, f**ked in this s**t
    Stuck, niggaz is lucky if we bust out this s**t, plus
    mama told me never stop until I bust a nut
    F**k the world if they can’t adjust
    It’s just as well, Hail Mary

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/---TJ---/ —TJ—

    IF Pac was alive wouldn’t s**t happen still…Pac was trash to me hell Dead or Alive

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/smsaurs45/ smsaurs45

    I’m sick of all this bullcrap I’m hearing about Pac. He’s average compared to who? Soulja Boy?? Give me a break! Tupac was a lyricist. He spoke on issues that rappers today barely even touch. Not to mention, Tupac was well read and did the english language some justice in his rhymes. Black Planet and King Magazine can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shes_so_fly23/ Shes_so_fly23

    OK PAC WAS “THA MAN” DONT DIG PAC YOU DONT KNOW RAP!!! HE ALWAYS WILL BE PAC AND THE BEST RAPPER OF HIS TIME!! LET HIM REST!! STILL IF YOU COMPARE THIS DATES RAP COMPARED TO PAC HE IS THE REALIST BY FAR! SO GET ON IT!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/karmeltoye/ karmeltoye

    ignorance breeds more ignorance and people who think Pac is over rated are pissed off that even in death he got more albums than Big had in life and they are better…the depth of his lyrical mind is still untapped and you say he is over rated…lol you most be smokin something other than chronic cause you trippin….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GotThatThump/ GotThatThump

    what the hell is their problem for thinking such a thing ya dig…they throwed off as fuc

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LILMSNIC/ LILMSNIC

    TUPAC WAS AND IS STILL DA GREATEST….RIP BABY,WE MISS U!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100proof4u/ 100proof4u

    That s**t jus pissed me off. yall should have kept that s**t to ya’self PAC is the dude always will be. quick playin yall muthaf**kas is crazy go shoot ya self!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Worth_The_Weight/ Worth_The_Weight

    Ok, so the people who call Pac “average” or say he wouldn’t be as “great” if he were alive today, must believe that there would have been no growth with Pac’s lyrics. Who spit better than Pac then? NOBODY! When times change, lyrics change. I think its unfair to make the statement of if he was alive he would be “average”. If here, Pac could have stepped his game up! Look at J-Zay…He has a classic 1st album, but he got better with time. Lil’ Wayne (who I think is all the way garbage) is the hottest rapper (according to album sales), but dude has been around since he was like 12 or 13, and is just now getting props. Pac was, is, and would still be if alive…. The G.O.A.T

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    What is an average MC? I mean Pac wasn’t the greatest lyricist but he did talk about more meaningful stuff than 99% of the artist out these days.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AfroPuffsNBA/ AfroPuffsNBA

    Well let me say this: Tupac IS NOT a better freestlyler than biggie. Tupac IS NOT better lyrecally than biggie. BUT his words have more meaning. He has alot of charisma. He HAS alot of heart. Not knocking him as a great MC but there are aspects of his skills that others are far better than him in.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Worth_The_Weight/ Worth_The_Weight

    Excuse the Jay-Z typo…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100proof4u/ 100proof4u

    what the f**k ya problem ya got lil wayne on that list ya stupid

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/iluvgrits/ iluvgrits

    You know what the problem is with these senseless muthaphuckin editors and writers is that they call Pac average and give major props to these fake azz rappers today. There is not one major artist who has stepped out of the norm and made us say damn that’s a banger like Pac, Biggie, Nas and Jay-Z. Hell I’m still waiting on the next Dre album. I’m not buying this bullschit the fagggots are selling today. Y’all need to be behind rappers like Scarface, and hell forgot Luda, Jim Jones and Kanye. This the type of schit yall need. Neither one of them sound like the other and all banging. Remember when Nelly came out, that schit was hot and then comes the water down Nelly, Chingy. You gotta look at hip hop like the 60′s and 70′s. You had ONE Isleys, Marvin, Teddy. The Five Heartbeats and The Temps didnt sound alike. Ray Charles and Stevie didnt sound alike. So treat hip hop like that. Quit promoting the same type of mf rappers. Lil Jon is a pioneer. But all that water down crunk schit, I take my man shaft and piss on it. And yes I drink hella water a day, so I’m pissin for a while! So my point is DONT KNOCK THE RED HEAD DARK SKINNED KID THAT GREW UP IN THE HOOD WITH A WHITE MOMMA. Meaning dont knock creativity. Because the fagggot that wrote this and the ones who are agreeing will never be able to create like Pac did. Pac songs had groove, rhythm, melody, truck knocking beat and most of all lyrical content. So dont know the man because he didnt put on the white dope mans back in the day with a wife beater and hit the stage snappin his fingers talking bout “yep in my white tee” or “hop up out my bed turn my swag on.” What phuckin swag, niggah you dressed like the other 99 videos my dumb paid cable to watch. This ya boi, Big Money Otis aka iluvgrits, get ya money right and always eat breakfast cuz on an empty stomach your azz can get slammed. Holla back.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/iluvgrits/ iluvgrits

    REVISED
    You know what the problem is with these senseless muthaphuckin editors and writers is that they call Pac average and give major props to these fake azz rappers today. There is not one major artist who has stepped out of the norm and made us say damn that’s a banger like Pac, Biggie, Nas and Jay-Z. Hell I’m still waiting on the next Dre album. I’m not buying this bullschit the fagggots are selling today. Y’all need to be behind rappers like Scarface, and hell forgot Luda, Jim Jones and Kanye. This the type of schit yall need. Neither one of them sound like the other and all banging. Remember when Nelly came out, that schit was hot and then comes the water down Nelly, Chingy. You gotta look at hip hop like the 60’s and 70’s. You had ONE Isleys, Marvin, Teddy. The Five Heartbeats and The Temps didnt sound alike. Ray Charles and Stevie didnt sound alike. So treat hip hop like that. Quit promoting the same type of mf rappers. Lil Jon is a pioneer. But all that water down crunk schit, I take my man shaft and piss on it. And yes I drink hella water a day, so I’m pissin for a while! So my point is DONT KNOCK THE RED HEAD DARK SKINNED KID THAT GREW UP IN THE HOOD WITH A WHITE MOMMA. Meaning dont knock creativity. Because the fagggot that wrote this and the ones who are agreeing will never be able to create like Pac did. Pac songs had groove, rhythm, melody, truck knocking beat and most of all lyrical content. So dont knock the man because he didnt put on the white dope mans back in the day with a wife beater and hit the stage snappin his fingers talking bout “yep in my white tee” or “hop up out my bed turn my swag on.” What phuckin swag, niggah you dressed like the other 99 videos my dumb paid cable to watch. This ya boi, Big Money Otis aka iluvgrits, get ya money right and always eat breakfast cuz on an empty stomach your azz can get slammed. Holla back.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/JCAUTIOUS/ JCAUTIOUS

    LMAO!!! BP got niggas fired up UH-gain.. Please take Pac off the damn list and stop bringing it up. I was a Biggie fan, but damn, take him off the list already! The Pac fans are right, he doesn’t belong… The only one that could hold a candle to those two cats these days is Hov. He’s had his shaky moments, but the nigga has lasted SINCE the days of B.I.G. and Pac, and can still put out a more than two hot songs on a 20 song album that you cats sing along to…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/colder_than_february/ colder_than_february

    I adimt the article seems harsh, but what you have to understand is he wasn’t just an MC; he was a poet who spoke about real problems and made songs to uplift the black community. Also, IMHO, he was a little overrated if you ask me, like people will really give him too much credit, comparing him to Jesus and whatnot. if you ask me, the greatest MC of all time is always and will forever be Rakim.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/piccolo19/ piccolo19

    i’m glad somebody finally said this

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CanHeTouchItLikeDat/ CanHeTouchItLikeDat

    I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS….Critics and editors are nothing more then people who try to criticize other people on something that they cant do themselves….just because some of the artist may be overated in your eyes doesnt mean that you speak for a whole generation or selection of people….its as simple as that and for the record PAC WAS AND STILL IS THE GREATEST. HANDS DOWN…I love Biggie but he still needed a few more albums to even be mentioned in the same breath as him two albums doesnt make you the greatest sorry

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CHICHITO/ CHICHITO

    Tupac was a revolutionary with Black Panther in his blood..The same people that killed Nat Turner and Malcolm X killed him…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sooperlovin/ Sooperlovin

    Pac was average. He gets more credit for the person he was than the skill he displayed. He was a very influential person but cmon man, there are tons of rappers who would destroy him in a rap battle.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/prettycute_1/ prettycute_1

    AVERAGE IS CAM’RON P.DIDDY, BIGGIE,MIMS, EVEN RICK ROSS!! TUPAC SPOKE ABOUT LIFE AND REAL PROBLEMS THIS PAINS ME TO SEE THAT AN URBAN MAG. WOULD EVEN THINK TO SAY SUMTHING OS THE SORT. DO YOUR RESEARCH I WISH TUPAC WAS ALIVE SO I WOULDNT HEAR ALL THIS NONSENSE ABOUT PANTIES BOOTY SHAKING AND STUPID LYRICS!! THIS IS HEARTBREAKING!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/younghazelj/ younghazelj

    overrated? naw, before mix tapes were popular and ring tone millionaires came along, he was making and saying things that people still use 10 yrs after his death. he was advanced for his time. he made more songs than any other MC I know of. don’t get me wrong, there are some good MC’s still around, but to say he’s not as good as he was is crazy. he was more than OK at what he did as a whole.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/businessizbusiness/ businessizbusiness

    lol writers do this just to get a rise out of people. the art of emceeing is just not about one dimension. Tupac wasn’t the greatest lyricist metaphor wise, but he was one of the deepest mc’s, and people related to him emotionally. Nas is on that level as well. To me Jay-z is more like big in ways, and Nas is more like 2pac in ways.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MRSTAYFOCUS1/ MRSTAYFOCUS1

    LOL-WHEN I READ THAT BS LIST BY BLACKPLANET SAYING 2PAC OVER RATED-IT WAS LIKE WHAT THE F**K-YA SILLY FOR THAT 1-NAW YA F**KING STUPID-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO WE STILL TALK ABOUT-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO SOME MEN AND WOMEN STILL CRY OVER JUST MENTIONING HIS NAME-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO GOT HIS NAME TAT’D ON 1000′S OF PEOPLE-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO EVERY RAPPER SAY HAD SOME INFLUENCE ON THEM HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO STILL DROPPING CD’S-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO OUT SOLD EVERY RAPPER PERIOD-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO STILL GETTING TALKED ABOUT TO THIS DAY-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO GAVE US EVERY EMOTION FROM HIM WHICH MOST MEN DONT DO-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO SOMETIMES WHEN EVENTS TAKE PLACE IN LIFE WE SIT AND GO DAMN IF HE WAS ALIVE I WONDER WHAT HE WOULD SAY-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO AT ANY TYPE OF PARTY OR EVENT U TURN HIS MUSIC ON AND NOBODY COMPLAINS-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO IF SOME RAPPERS SAY THEY HATED HIM OR SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT HIM WOULD LOSE THEY FANS NOT ALL OF EM YET MOST-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO OLD RAPS FROM THE 90′S STILL RELATE 2DAY-HOW THE F**K A DEAD MEN WHO-U KNOW WHAT U GET THE POINT-WHAT THE F**K THE MATTER WITH US AS A SOCIETY-2PAC-WE DOWN TUPAC ON ANYTHING-HOW?-2PAC IS OUR ELVIS AND FRANK SANATRA-WHEN U SPEAK THAT MEN NAME ALWAYS HAVE RESPECT WITH IT-YA SO F**KING DUMB ABD FUNNY 2 ME-JAY-Z-NAS-T.I-LIL WAYNE-I SAY THEY NAMES 2 ASK THIS QUESTION IF RAP MUSIC WAS RAN LIKE SPORTS AND U HAD 2 TAKE ONE MC JUST ONE AND 2PAC WAS STILL ALIVE OR BETTER YET U CAN KEEP EM DEAD AND LETS SAY TAKE ALL HIS ROYALTIES YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN ALL HIS MUSIC PERIOD U CAN OWN-WHICH ONE WOULD U PICK?-WOULD U PICK ANYONE TO PUTTHE HOUSE MONEY ON IF U HAD 2 PIC JUST ONE-THINK ON THAT-2PAC INFLUNCED MILLIONS SO OVER RATED IS NOT HIM-IF WE COULD LITERALY ASK EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO THE BEST MC I SAY MAJORITY SAY 2PAC SO AN AVERAGE MC NAW DUMBIES NOT HIM-I LOVE U 2PAC I KNOW U LAUGHING AND MAD THAT THEY EVEN HAD THE NERVE 2 SAY THIS SILLY S**T-O IT WAS U MR TUPAC THAT TAUGHT ME THE MEDIA FULL OF DIRTY TRICKS-SO THANK U 2PAC THANK U=

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lirik2k8/ Lirik2k8

    Straight up! If it wasnt 4 Pac’ half of these Negros out here would’nt be claiming dis “thUG Life”…They’d all be in college or in jail. He spoke about “where are we headed?” not about “what I got”? If they didnt have material possessions half these rappers wouldnt have shi*t to rap about! excuse my french!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/JerZzZz/ JerZzZz

    Tupac could tell a story. Something most rappers these days can’t do. As far as his lyrics go, he was average at best. I could name plenty of better lyricists than he ever was.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/checkmeouy05/ checkmeouy05

    Well when he was alive he was the best MC out so i dont see how much would change if he still was alive… and he more than likely would not have been still rappin he would have had his own label and been doin it big.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shilee1/ shilee1

    man!!!! GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!!!! yall is str8 up retarded for this s**t, if Pac was just a regular MC then who was an outstanding one than?????????????????????? be honestly I think people is very selfish because they only use his name because they know that it would create such a high response and that’s what they want, someone to read their Bulls**t ass story!!!!! MAN!! stop trying to get yo lil article read by talkin bout the KING you B***HES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ISSA152/ ISSA152

    NOPE HE WAS THE ILLEST THE ONLY RAPPER PROBABLY BETTER THAN HE WOULD BE NOTORIOUS PUN OR L
    HE WAS A GREAT STORY TELLER AND THE CONTENT OF HIS MUSIC WAS UNMATCHED AS WELL AS HIS VERSATILITY

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GORJUS38/ GORJUS38

    MR. STAYFOCUS1. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THAT DOWN FOR ALL THEM IGNORANT NEGROS WHO COULD’NT RECOGNIZE REAL IF IT WAS STANDING IN THERE FACE. TUPAC IS THE GREATEST, WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER WHICH WILL TOUCH OUR HEARTS AND LIVES AS HE IS. NEGROS REALLY NEED TO STOP HATING AND GIVE PROPS WHERE THEY’RE DUE. NOT TO MENTION HIS RECORD SALES SPEAKS FOR ITSELF! HOLLA!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shilee1/ shilee1

    MAN!! they called him overrated!!!!!!!!, I’ll slap yo momma for sayin that BULLS**T!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blakk_gangsta/ blakk_gangsta

    Everybody knows who 2Pac is, so what you f****t ass writers don’t like him, you can’t sway all of the loyal Pac fans with your garbage ass views. Get real, you motherf**kers loosing creditability big time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Unusualpro/ Unusualpro

    This is straight up ludacrisness. True Big Pun is a better MC than Pac when it comes to being immaginative with the flow. But 2Pac literally painted pictures, it wasnt a metapor, it was a literal Picture and it was in your face. Brendas got a baby, Against All Odds, Hail Mary, Me and My Girlfriend, A lot of the first albums he did before he got on Deathrow were on a political tip.

    People mistake the simplicity of 2pac’s words, he used simplicity to break down complex s**t so he could spoon feed his audience complexity. Not to mention his words were fueled with an emotion and poetry that to this day is matched in the game. Any Legend, even Big Pun. Pac made you feel every word.

    Hip Hop is dead because of the lack of true journalism. Too many moronic opinions out there, this is one of many. King Magazine probably did this just to get a buzz or some extra press for their issue.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Thug_Life1981/ Thug_Life1981

    I think this assessment is utterly ridiculous because 2pac was very innovative and he also had a lot of mind boggling verses. For instance “My Girlfriend,” “Keep Your Head Up,”Smile”. He could rap at slow and fast speeds. His verses were more articulate and concise. However i do think he wasnt that great of a rapper in da beginning. And the comparison 2 Big Pun is very hilarious. Big Pun only had a few hits for his whole career.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Young_Tewnes/ Young_Tewnes

    stop hangin on the mans nuts lyrically he was not a genius. he didnt have clever metaphors or intracit verses come on now. Dont get me wrong pac was that dude but he was that dude because of his swagg, personality, and flows. Yawl silly if u think other wise. Take his swagg and what he stood for out of the equation and has a “LYRICIST” the man was average. No offense Pac is one of the greatest hands down but not because he was a genius lyricist

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/camero95gt/ camero95gt

    Average mc come on now…pac was the only rapper that actually made you really feel what he was sayin rather you lived his life stlye or not…you’ll feeling him if he rapping bout how scandlouls a woman can be to when he rapping bout keeping ur head up…thats something an average mc cant do….piles, rick ross..them niggas is average

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigleedog/ bigleedog

    Just goes to show how many people don’t take the time to read! The article in KING is spot on! Tupac was just about as good as Pun I didn’t want to realize it but then I sat down and compared the two.
    But to really put things in perpective I listened to some Rakim and Big L. do this and as the article says you to may have to concede that Pac is NOT the G.O.A.T but rather the most important of all time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shaod1000/ Shaod1000

    FIRST AND FOREMOST I DON’T EVEN WRITE BLOGS,THAT BEING SAID,THAT’S BULL$HIT, PAC WAS AT THE LEAST ABOVE AVERAGE:FEW RAPPERS HAVE AS LARGE A BODY OF WORK,ESPECIALLY POST-HUMOUS.FEW RAPPERS TOUCHED ON AS MANY TOPICS,FROM THUG LIFE 2 DRUG LIFE 2 REVOLUTIONARY MINSET.MAN KING NEED TO CUT THAT $HIT,WHO THE F U C K EDITED THAT ARTICLE.SHOUT OUT 2 ALL WARRIOR POETS.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SWANKness/ SWANKness

    Pac was the greatest in his own right..lyrically he was a beast, he talked to your mind, heart && soul about s**t you could see right outside your front door and he was a poet..King magazine is more a ass magazine then a hip hop one..dont try to take away, he worked for his dues..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Thug_Life1981/ Thug_Life1981

    I also would like 2 allude on Pac further. 2pac was a poet so he was more lyrically sound than most MC’s and like somebody said earlier he talked about real issues. The rappers after him only talked about jewelry, cars, and women. Additionally I could see if they equated Pac’s flow to Notorious BIG, Nas, Scarface, or Jay-Z but Big Pun??? I mean have these editors really researched this topic?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SwuaveAce/ SwuaveAce

    r they crazy….pac as a regular mc they smoken sumthin fa real u got legends and immortals biggs and pac r legends but ppl like too $hort,run dmc, ll cool j r immortals

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/keldykel72/ keldykel72

    i cant believe your saying he is overrater im 17 years old and i know he is not overrated..i listen to nothing but tupac…he is the best rapper/poet to ever live…the only way to understand that is by actually hearing his lyrics…stop listing to all that lil wayne s**t and soulija boi trash and listen to some real lyrics…thats the main reason why hip-hop is dead because dont nobody care about lyrics no more…tupac is the greatest hip-hop artist of all time…its funny how you say he is overrated when all the rappers today be trying to sound and be like him…it just makes no sense tupac is the best ever to even touch the mic

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pretty_tender/ pretty_tender

    That’s why I don’t read King magazine now. This article has crushed any chance of me ever purchasing an issue. Saying tupac was average…that sound like something Rush Limbaugh would say

    “Here’s a message to the newborns waiting to breathe if you believe than you can achieve just look at me. Against all odds though life is hard we carry on, living in the projects broke with no lights on. To all the seeds that follow me protect yo essence born with lesser but you still precious. Smile for me now!”

    Average? I think not

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RudyT88/ RudyT88

    Im glad someone had no problem telling the truth, T Pac maybe a pioneer of rap, but lyrically he doesnt come close to many under ground new york rappers

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blac_cat25/ blac_cat25

    I totally agree with this list. These rappers are not all that there are a lot of unsigned artist that are way better but 4 some reason these 10 get way 2 much attention!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/omegas3/ omegas3

    average mc? really..lol ok.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jai170/ jai170

    i didnt care ta read the artical i jus saw the damb title.. but 2 pac wasnt adverage… his energy gave off the best of him wen he rap.. if you understand me, wen he spitted his lyrics i can feel he meant that s**t.. thats why hes the best. music about creativty spittin real s**t with energy, he had that.. thats hiphop…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/red_head88/ red_head88

    isn’t having the power to influence pretty unaverage? to have influence is to have power… plus, his music is still relevant, unlike a lot of the artists who are in the studio right now.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kuntryboy8/ kuntryboy8

    AND we will still continue to be pissed off because yall calling Pac average is blasphemy. Get the F**k outta here. He was the realist of all time… if he was an “average” MC then why is he the most imitated yet NEVER duplicated rapper of all time? He’s the only cat out there that was a born leader, pretty much a black panther and he also was a poet. His stuff had soul and emotion unlike the garbage out there now. He is the truth and there’s nothing like him when he spoke people shut up and listened. He was more than an “MC”and he worked harder than all those other cats… he has dropped over 10 albums AFTER DEATH Who the hell has done that in music history? Screw KING magazine

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/newbirth72/ newbirth72

    Pac was a poet who CHOSE to break it down, so that his works word be understood by many.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/true_loverboy_c/ true_loverboy_c

    First…your best friends become enemies…Big and Pac died over power of the public and what you thought….
    MC or not Guns where created to kill US not them !!!
    Reading words from a magazine aint gonna do us any good…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/aspiritualman4u/ aspiritualman4u

    for pac as a lyricist i would have to agree. but he was one of the realest out ever and had meaning to what he was saying for the most part.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Charmous/ Charmous

    Wait a second, King magazine says “Pac was average”. I say oh really. Please tell me how many other MC’s had their lyrics studied at a college or university? How many albums did he have go platinum after his death? Do you still think average???

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigbendalibra/ bigbendalibra

    don’t know s**t about rap….

    :(

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lu5ciou5_Chocolat3/ Lu5ciou5_Chocolat3

    “Average”????…I think not.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/That_Lite_Lite/ That_Lite_Lite

    real talk pac may not have been the best rapper but he was a lyricist an he talked real s**t.. he was very intelligent an brought alot to the rap game an folks dont do it like him anymore its all bout money cars clothes an hoes nowadays….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mizunderstood1002/ Mizunderstood1002

    what? he was the best out!! Alot of these new rappers should take notes cause they are garbage

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/THUG4ULADIES/ THUG4ULADIES

    pac was one of he realiest niggaz. its funny how mufukaz be downplayin that man even when he dead. now if that aint feel pacs music u still respected him. he was like jordan 2 the 80′s baby. give that man props even while he restin in peace.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Playjazz7/ Playjazz7

    there is a lot of music that other states don’t hear 2 pac is one of the best rappers of all times..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/23dezzy45/ 23dezzy45

    pac average give me a brake, whoever started sayn that, needs to step there hip hop game up, the only thing average is there knowledge about hip hop

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nick_senior/ nick_senior

    I cant believe these low-life’s
    would even put Tupac in this category. Thats the media’s problem they just gotta find the worst things to talk about just to put another issue in the newsstands. SAD

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Juniormints05/ Juniormints05

    who ever wrote this garbage needs to be fired. I dont think they have ever listened to every Pac album. Read is poetry. Every MC now lacks what he had; context.

    I could name probable barely 10 rapper with context, delivery, wordplay that are ALIVE right now. BARELY.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blackdiamond184/ blackdiamond184

    2 pac was one of the greatest in my book his songs bring back memories like no other. However I have to disagree with thug4uladies about Pac being one of the most realist niggaz, If you watch the doc**entary you will see he wasn’t raised up like he portrayed, When he started out he wasn’t boasting thug life. He was a clown that changed his image, He got his s**t pushed in in prison which will probably happen to TI too, studio gangstas. The only skinny rapper who is real about that lifestyle is DMX that I can think of. But hey whatever sells records I guess

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Buga_D/ Buga_D

    how can he be an average MC if he had songz for days and many unreleased tracks and rhymes no one heard yet the was no thug but he took that image to catch everyone’s attention to prove to the world that ghetto life is killing the minds of our youth weather black white or latino get it together what other MC had rhymes like his and composed as many and had flocks of fans worldwide like Pac hell the only other rapper that came close was BIG im not raising hell i just wanna get the facts known plus another artist was able to claim true world fame and he is not misunderstood and a different shade take that and write a review these rappers today need guys like you to write why they need to up their game like pac and big hell we got a lot of BS on the radio and underground now from mainly southern rapper who are fake and dont have no street or gang knowledge besides what they see on tv or read on a webpage i have to say pacs influence and music was gold and if you are willing to put 50 cent or LIL WAYNE over Pac then you really need some help my friend i had enough of these mississippi and new orleans fools out here tryin to claim the game only southern guys i believe can even hold is T.I. and Outkast and UGK other than them the south need to rest the mess

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/gangstaboy2k6/ gangstaboy2k6

    no big deal..Hes just the best rapper alive or not

    Tupac sure isnt overated either, obviously every1 has there own opinions but the truth is hes made the best rap music ever

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2333unique/ 2333unique

    Greatest rapper ever.. to say he was avg is bulls**t and whoevea wrote that piece needs to be fired

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ya_Boy_Chuku/ Ya_Boy_Chuku

    Wow! This article just shocked me. I guess people like Lil Wayne and others now a days with absolutely no talent are “real MC’s” This is trash. Rap music today is a joke I cant even listen to the radio anymore!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ricflair76/ ricflair76

    Wake up! Not only was Tupac highly overated, HE WAS TRASH!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ricflair76/ ricflair76

    All Pac ever did was constantly rhyme about all of that thug life b.s. and dis a bunch of mc’s that he knew where much better than him.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/edgebone187/ edgebone187

    Pac is an average MC,Hell yea,that man lyrics made another man pull a shot on a cop,and you call him an average MC,THINK DEEP,how can a mixture of words make written in just pen and paper dope you out,and you pull a shot on someone,and some stupid magazine with no live call you an average MC??that news was a history in hiphop that no other MC in hiphop dead or alive so far can match,can someone shoot somebody after listening to Lil wayne or any of this other older folks,HELL NO,SHOW PAC THE RESPECT HE DESEVRVE AND STOP COMPARING S**T…STUPID

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CarmelDelyte4u/ CarmelDelyte4u

    Nobody buys king to read the articles by these substandard writers…everybody knows this. If ya’ll didn’t put half naked chics on the cover, you wouldn’t sell one dayum magazine. So, play your position…don’t try to pretend you are a reputable magazine with anything relevant to say. This is another garbage headline to get folk to read a garbage article with no basis in reality and no basis in fact. One of these days, ya’ll gonna write something that actually makes some dayum sense and the sky will fall lmao.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bestrongblac/ bestrongblac

    Stop tripping!? How can king magazine have the nerve to say that TAPAC was an average mc? To disrespect that dude when he’s gone and average mc’s are just that average, yet Tapac touched just about everyone who listen to his work and it’s speak for itself and to put him in a company of jim jones, plies, bow wow, is not right at all for all those dudes wish they do like Tapac and have his impact. King magazine should be boycotted for making such illresponsible statement and the type of response they will be getting for disrespecting Tapac like that, and have more respect for those who moved on from this reality !

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Giizmo/ Giizmo

    They fully of s**t..and haters..rappers now and day don’t talk about s**t ain’t about s**t and can’t rap worth a s**t..there’s more to rap then makin’ words rhyme and makn’ slick comments..get outta hea wit that..most people kno wats really up

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/0VancouverHurts/ 0VancouverHurts

    whoever calls tupac average needs to die!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/7tyree7/ 7tyree7

    thank god ppl r finally saying wat iv been tellin ppl 4 yeers. the gy isnt 1 of-HES THE MOST OVERRATED RAPPER EVER!he had his moments, but 4 the most part he was all marketing. he was marketed 2 women-period. he ruined rap with his big mouth, starting the coastal war. it was the best of times in rap during those yeers, and he ruined it with the silly thug life s**t. his best stuff was trapped, n soldiers story, brenda. the rest was all marketing 2 thugs, and women. THANK U KING MAGAZINE!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shamel_/ Shamel_

    Tupac was MANY things but “average” was not one of them. He had the gift, knowledge and influence to CHANGE THE WORLD if only he had been blessed to live longer. The mere fact that you took the time to write about him (after him being deceased NEARLY 13 YEARS) only drives me to the conclusion that he was (and still is) ONE OF THE GREATEST!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NJOY26/ NJOY26

    Tupac Shakur, overated??? Man get the f**k outta here w/ that bullshyt. Man, too many haters.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sweetc0152003/ sweetc0152003

    Are you all f**king crazy or what. Tupac was and is the best rapper this world has ever seen. Biggie Smalls couldn’t even hold a candle to Pac. I think that you just needed readers for your little column and you knew that a remark like that would definitely get people to read your rag. Honestly, without his music and his true lifestyle the real meaning of rap would never have been discovered. Yes there are other great rappers out there and I enjoy their music but be honest, they can’t compare to Pac.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bungholebandit/ bungholebandit

    Pac, was the truth bottom line agree or not! The proof is in the pudding Baby! Oh one more thing you mothaf**kers put Pac on that list b4 Baby from cash money? You catz is crazy as s**t. The best hip hop was in the 90′s this new school s**t is garbage PERIOD!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/youngr80/ youngr80

    People are sheep, Biggie was the greatest alive and dead, Pac had many years under his rap belt and at the time he let a new cat take his shine. Pac was the biggest hipcrit ever if anything PAC WAS RECTOM

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/FUDOWN/ FUDOWN

    i cannot understand how so many of you folks out here can actually fix your mouth to say pac and average in the same sentence!!!listen to shed so many tears and talk that average s**t!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nina1023/ Nina1023

    How can they even fix their mouth to say that Tupac was an average rapper. Tupac was the best rapper that I have seen. The thing tha makes you a real good rapper is when you can actually make a good song based upon the life you actually lived not the life someone else live or the life you want to live. He told his life’s story and that’s what I liked about him. He wasn’t fake he was real as they come. Rest In Paradise Tupac. Much Luv!!!!! Still your #1 fan….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Corp_Icon/ Corp_Icon

    I hesitate to comment on this subject, due to the simple fact that there is a lot non hip hop heads leaving irrelevant messages about someone being overrated. One of the previous member stated that rapper nowadays cant rap about sh!t and they’re right. Dude cut an album today and when you ask what they do, they say their rappers. I disagres. You maybe an artist, but not a rapper. Tupac, Biggie, Andre 3000, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Rick Ross and more all know how to spit lyrically. Not too many more can do that. But only true hip hop heads understand that concept. The rest would crown Soulja Boy the king of rap. Lol. And I aint even hatin’ on dude.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Tried-N-True/ Tried-N-True

    Pac was my little cousin and I take umbrage to anyone “labeling” him as average. he was like the “Last Poets” and Gil Scott Heron, he spoke from the heart and spoke the truth in order to open Black people but most importantly “everyone’s” eyes! He was before his times so don’t hate the messenger, the speaker of truth who only asked you to open your minds and to stop sleepwalking. ……..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bimistakeimbak/ bimistakeimbak

    listen i luv pac i got all is albums of original material
    but there right pac the greatest to ever its rakim
    the b.i.g then pac
    now is pac the most copied was he the most gangsta without a doubt by pac is far from overrated because 12 yrs after he passed he”s still here think about it tattoos big chains rapping with your shirt off talking about being the biggest gangsta street getting going to jail mad times writing a book of poetry and most all have the power to touch millions all these make but everything but overrated f**k being the best rapper he was the hardiest and the realist ever
    he was a legend!
    so f**k king there booty mag anyway

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/snakeyes21/ snakeyes21

    Saying Tupace is an average is m.c. is like saying Rakim ain’t dope. Whoever writes this b/s need to stop. Stop comparing Biggie to Pac. Both of them are great m.c.’s, better than most that’s out now. You can still play either one of ‘em in a party and get it jumping. They are still relevant. Pac was way better than average, actually he’s one of the best to ever to do it, somebody needs a reality check. Respect this man’s body of work and stop hating!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DREGOOSE9000/ DREGOOSE9000

    MAN IF PAC WASN’T THE BEST WHY DOES ALMOST ALL RAPPERS SAY HE IS AND BASE GREATNESS OFF PAC

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/laidback_hustle/ laidback_hustle

    Man!! The Pac Hating just never stops…Average? are you serious? Tupac is without a doubt the best of all time…your favorite rappers favorite rapper…they all try to be him every chance they get from ja, dmx, 50, jeezy, weezy and all of the above. You got the nerve to say Biggie is better…dude was good but lets be real all he had was flow, lyrically he didn’t have the juice…He got schooled by pac, jocked Jay-Z swag and style…first album was bangin, Life after death had one good disc and the other was garbage but he’s the best? thats funny. Dude only sold 10 mill cause he passed away. BIGGIE MOST OVERRATED MC!!! If dude wasn’t from the N.Y he’d be Rick Ross

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1DefPoet/ 1DefPoet

    Bottom line to say Tupac is overrated is an opinion left mainly divided my the listeners but the fact still remains regardless if someones music such as his can be played today or 20 years from now and still be relevant then that should show his artistic capability he had well made a mark in hip hop before his death and all that BS about his music being marketed everybody Music is marketed Big’s music was marketed specifically for people on the east coast, Pac’s work ethic came second 2 none compared 2 anybody, an artist’s music reputation is built off there capability 2 reach the masses with there words where the listener is so in tuned with the artist they can relate what they speak of to there real life endeavers and to be capable 2 do that with millions past, present or future 2 be honest thats far from being overrated plain and simple

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/C4pricorn/ C4pricorn

    how dare u put Pac on this list with these losers, u have no credibility whoever wrote this trash…then again if its NewsOne, Urban Daily or HelloBeautiful – its always some dumb s**t being put up in bulk. get some real writers to do this job because the current people u have now have NO idea what they are doing.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/YOURNAWTEEGIRL/ YOURNAWTEEGIRL

    WHATEVER MAN F**K KING
    STUPID AZZ HOOCHIE MAGAZINE
    THAT’S WHY THEIR S**T IS GETTING SHUT DOWN

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rydemyface/ rydemyface

    Pac wasnt the the greatest when you compare his raps line for line with legends like BIG, Rakim, and others but his lyrical influnce and swagger still is as strong today as it was 10 years ago. Thats why he deserves to be on the list in my opinion anyway

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/C4pricorn/ C4pricorn

    btw – F**K – King magazine, i only look at the pretty pictures anyway, why read the sorry ass articles when i can read a good book?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Beautiful_Mind_87/ Beautiful_Mind_87

    so if all these artist are not hot then who is????? please…im dying! this will be interesting??

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Beautiful_Mind_87/ Beautiful_Mind_87

    so if all these artist are not hot then who is????? please…im dying! this will be interesting!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NoPaperGangstas/ NoPaperGangstas

    Damn that is a strong oppinion of pac, but on some level I can see how someone could say he is overrated. Same thing with notrious B.I.G. I barely ever listened to any of them. I remember puff more than I remember any of them. 2 pac had one good song, and video that I remember, but never can find on the internet or what album it was on. Same thing with B.I.G, I was never really a fan to be honest.Gangsta Rap to me is overrated. I am still trying to see what is going on with Hip Hop.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/zhuice_box/ zhuice_box

    How can Pac be an influence but not a properly rated M.C. which is tech. Master of Ceremony. On the Makevelli banger he was not out witted by Meth or Red and you gotta be straight with them two on a track just on g.p of being forced to step ya own game up and rep proper. Kidden’ me or what?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Priceless_Prolific/ Priceless_Prolific

    THATS BULLS**T, YALL DONT KNOW REAL RAP S**T. PAC WAS AND IS ONE OF THE GREATEST. AND NONE OF THE OTHER ARTIST IN THE ARTIST LISTED MUSIC CAN EVEN COMPARE TO PAC. THATS EVEN MORE DISRESPECTFUL THAT COMPARING PAC TO BIGGIE. YEAH BIGGIE WAS HOT BUT HE WASNT NO PAC. WHEH PAC RAPPED U COULD FEEL EVERY LINE LIKE HE WAS PAINTING A PICTURE AND U KNEW HE WAS AS SERIOUS ABOUT HIS CRAFT AS HE WAS ABOUT BREATHING. YALL PEOPLE THAT COME UP WIT THESE ARTICLES DONT KNOW S**T BOUT REAL ARTIST, THE ONES THAT HAVE THE GIFT…PAC WAS ONE OF THE FEW..AND WHO THE F**K IS ASHER ROTH OR ASTER OR WATEVER HOW YALL GOT THE AUDACITY TO PUT PAC IN A CATEGORY WIT A MUF**KA THAT JUST CAME OUT AND NOBODY LISTEN TO ON THE STREET.. GET REAL……ALSO TO ANYBODY THAT TAKE OFFENSE TO ANYTHANG I JUST SAID, F**K U IN ADVANCE, U DONT KNOW WAT IT IS TO APPRECIATE A REAL ARTIST.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LadyJsWorld/ LadyJsWorld

    I totally disagree with that statement, Pac was anything but average, and I feel the same way about Notorious. There was absolutely nothing average about two of the greatest rappers that ever lived.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/VernsHouse/ VernsHouse

    Keep in mind that lyrical content in Hip-Hop is forever evolving.For example LL’s “I’m Bad” was a smash and lyrical hit in the late 80′s,but those lyrics would be considered wack now.Could Pac beat Eminem in a freestyle battle?I doubt it but when put in it’s proper perspective Tupac was the best of his time…..P.S Listen to” Brenda’s gotta baby”.Genius!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trigga321/ trigga321

    WHAT THE F**K YA PEOPLE TALKIN BOUT ON HERE BOUT PAC MOST OF YALL WAS ON DIAPERS WHEN PAC WAS ALIVE THAT NIGGA IS THE GREATEST RAPPER EVER HANDS DOWN SO YA’LL NEED TO GO BACK AND SO YA RESEARCH ON HIM IF U DONT KNO THAT HE’S THE GREATEST HE’S AN ICON

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SunofAusar/ SunofAusar

    PAC…overrated, period!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ket_Ket/ Ket_Ket

    Pac was one of the greatest MCs. Nothing average about him. Why try to put down his work after all these years.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/myblacknation47/ myblacknation47

    More New York hate that is why they fell off Hip hop is bigger than New York rappers give over it Pac told us the good the bad and the ugly in life most rappers are only talk about BS Pac was a true poet Big Pun and Pac not even in the same league

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/colorsex/ colorsex

    Jay-z should be #1 on that b***h list,his b***h ass ran behind his bodyguards in’99 when I confronted him ’bout disrespectin Pac while on the Hard knock Life tour.Jay is a good rapper, so was B.I.G.,but 2pac is still The Realist.Them niggas still bitin-listen to the lyrics.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/devale80/ devale80

    I just have one thing to add…. Which rapper has a college course devoted to his lyrics?…..2Pac……….when any other rapper gets that credit call me..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LUC1FER/ LUC1FER

    F**K KING MAGAZINE …

    Tupac Shakur is a renaissance worldwide in hiphop till upon his death and still people BUY his CD not cause what popular its an HONOR Without a choice its a must that how they feel about TUPAC.

    ” that my nigga 4 sho, am get dat CD ” we feel like he related too black struggle but unify it too world struggle even if u not black as well.

    Tupac makes sense and brings the emotions and reinstates how we as society feels with his heartfelt expressions that defines struggle what society goes through day by day and his definition with a voice matter on exploitation about the law above anyone rights & he calligraphies with details life style & poverty of unjust manipulation people feel from law he describe details matter which hits you to your core of existence, That why 2pac will always be loved and be remembered as the GREATEST ARTIST RAPPER OF ALL TIME and as well as a good actor , educate poet & A THUG.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cocoasecrets/ Cocoasecrets

    Wow. are you serious? I cant believe these haters! I guess that’s why it’s a wrap for this(KING) magazine lol. Anywho Pac was the ILLEST! Way before his time. You can hate all you want but Pac will always be the TRUTH.

    toodles!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dafinestchica73/ dafinestchica73

    first and foremost most people who agrees with this article is jacking there dicks off to king magazine and all the woman they put in it….. i asked my male friends to tell me one good article they read out of king none could name one but could tell me just about every chic whose been on the cover…….. WOW and u want us to believe that this is a reputable mag yeah right u get better stories from playboy…..lol now to those of u who thinks TUPAC wasnt the s**t then apparently u dont know jack s**t bout rap all and yall said he just rhymed words u got him f**ked up with biggie and he wasnt marketed… dont like what i post then f**k u and this bulls**t of an story…. i want yall to go watch brown sugar even on thea them cats say TUPAC and they kings of old school and legends they give him his props…. damn i could see if dude was down and out but he dead and been dead for like wut 12yrs and yall still got that nigga name in your what YOUR MOUTH!!!! point well proven…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BuBLepOpELEcTriC9/ BuBLepOpELEcTriC9

    man…at the end of the day…what gives a f**k??? none of these rappers are doing ANYTHING for me. and i feel that tupac is extremely overrated as was Biggie…plus they are dead so ppl should really stop dick ridin’ cuz…necrophilia is gross

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/goboy87/ goboy87

    this article is dumb as fuc….Asher Roth has not even released a CD yet..i swear people get paid to write bulls**t

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mobedeep/ mobedeep

    people who are still sane would never agree with this article… and as someone earlier mentioned, mostly everything we are reading, viewing or hearing, someone with a hidden agenda is paying people to put it out… money talks! and mostly everybody has a price tag…it’s just how much you are willing to sell out for… i’m priceless, and i encourage everyone reading this to consider themselves the same!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jroc23/ Jroc23

    How The can someone right an article saying that pac was the illest rapper and the person who wrote this non sense probably never step been in the hood or go the the hell that tupac fans go thru. That why in pac always say in his raps do you feel me, because what he is writing about his trial and tribulations and some of us not if all can relate to that real down to earth music. There is no rapper today that i can listen to and relate and another this Big rapped about fantasy stuff pac rapped about real life things. King magazine naw i’m gonna call ya lame magazine its ashame yall trying to capitalize off of 2pac’s fame losers.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Blu_Dream/ Blu_Dream

    I have to say hells yes Pac was deeper than Big Pun. May they both RIp. Pac was on a whole different level than a lot of these so called MC’s in the game now. I am gonna ride w/Pac forever and a damn day. King definitely got it wrong and I think you did too on this one BP.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    PAC BATTLED EVERYBODY!

    THE REALEST S**T I EVER WROTE RING A BELL?

    AND JESUS WAS AN AVERAGE PROPHET!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Bklynbadbwoy/ Bklynbadbwoy

    biggie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tupac.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CAPRICE_DA_DON11/ CAPRICE_DA_DON11

    IF U ASK ME 90′S RAPPERS WAS THE BEST OF RAPPERS THATS WHEN THE UNDERGROUND WAS NOTICABLE LONGS UR LYRICS STOOD OUT AND 87.3% OF THE GARBAGE AND NOT HOT RAPPERS HAD LYRICS IF THE PIONEERS SUCH ASS BIG AND PAC WAS STILL LIVIN THEY WILL BE LIKE SCARFACE RIGHT NOW TALKIN BOUT HOW THE OLD DAYS WAS AND HOW THESE NEW FOLKS F**KIN UP THE GAME NI99AZ DIED FOR THIS RAP GAME TO PROSPER NOW RAP IS AT ITS PRIME AND YALL GOT SO LOST INTO BIAS AND COMMERCIALIZE RAP STYLES THAT YALL NOW COMPARIN BY RECORD SELLS TRUST AND BELIEVE PAC AND BIG STOOD OUT BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL THE ELEMENTS OF BEIN A GREAT MC THAT NONE OF THESE RAPERS HAVE AN INCRAMENT OF TODAY I DONT THINK SOLDIER BOY OR T I OR LIL WAYNE CAN PUT A STORY TOGETHER MOST OF THESE NEW RAPPERS AINT EVEN RAPPERS THEY JUST ENTERTAINERS SOMEBODY IS GHOSTIN AND THE INDUSTRY IS SELLIN SMH FOLKS SWEAR THEY KNOW THE BUSINESS BUT DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY LISTENIN TO AND 92.8% OF THE GARBAGE U HEAR TODAY IS JUST BIAS THE INDUSTRY IS BUILT ON ONE HIT WONDERS THATS THE NEW JINGLES OF RAP WHICH MAKE THE RAP GAME EXTRA CORNY THE PROBLEM OF TODAYS RAPPERS AND YESTERDAY RAPPERS TODAY RAPPERS ARE TO CHARACTERIZE WHICH U CAN PREDICT THEY SATURATE THE SAME STYLES TO STEAL THE SAME MONEY BUT WHEN U TALENTED ITS NO WAY IN 4 HELLS AND 7 MOONS U CAN SATURATE TALENT SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN YALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND UR FACTS AND STOP OPINIONATIN ON GARBAGE AND BIAS MUSIC FOLKS IF WE DONT CHANGE BACK TO THE CREATIVITY AND IMAGERY OF SOUND THAT WE HAD IN THE LATE 80′S AND EARLY 90′S WHEN FOLKS HAD SOMETHIN TO SAY WHICH LEAD TO A MESSAGE THAT MADE U MORE SMARTER THEN THE RAP GAME WILL BE LIKE THE POP CULTURE DOOMED FROM THE START AND I PUT THAT ON EVERYTHING FOLKS WAKE UP SMELL THE BEANS CUZ STARBUCKS IS 24/7 HUSTLE FOLKS THIS MUSIC SAME GRIND THE DIFFERENCE NOW THEN IT WAS YESTERDAY FOLKS ARE MORE PREDICTABLE WHEN U HAD CREATIVE NI99AZ LIKE MYSTIKAL THAT WAS TRULLY UNPREDICTABLE MUSIC IS MUSIC BUT FOLKS U CHEATIN THE PEOPLE FROM THE TRUTH AND PAC AND BIG WAS GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAD SHEER TALENT THAT NO ONE TIL THIS DAY CAN DUPLICATE GORILLA BLACK TRY TO SOUND LIKE BIG BUT UNSUCESSFUL U EVEN HAD THE REALIST TRY TO SOUND LIKE PAC COULDNT DUPLICATE IT Y CUZ THOSE NI99AZ HAD TALENT THAT WAS FAR THEN JUST SOUND AND DELIVERY TRU MC KNOWS WHAT IM SAYIN FOLKS THATS DONT UNDERSTAND YALL JUST RYMIN WORDS AND TRYIN TO MAKE HOT PUNCHES AND BLOWIN HOT 16 BUT CANT MAKE A CONCEPT THAT MAKES SENSE WITH THE TITLE OF THERE SONGS BUT THOSE NI99AZ MADE U BELIEVE U CAN BE A THUG THOSE NI99AZ MADE U A ROBBERY EXPERT THOSE NI99AZ MADE A FAT NI99A FEEL LIKE HE CAN BE A MAC AND BE UGLIER THEN BAT S**T AND PAC MADE U BELIEVE THERE WASNT A GOD TO FEAR FOLKS IT ALL STARTS WIT IMAGERY EVEN IF U FAKE HUSTLIN WASNT UR JOB OR WHATEVER AND UR BACK GROUND GOT EXPOSED AT THE END IF U TALENTED FOLKS BELIEVED AND THEY WILL ALWAYS RESPECT WHAT U DONE CUZ U FILLED IN THE SOULS THE ANGER THE FUSTR8ION THE AGGREVIATION THE INTELLEGENCE THE CAUTIOUS ALL OF THE ABOVE THAT THESE MC’S MADE U BELIEVE IN BUT CAN U GET THAT FROM THESE SO CALLED ARTIST’S NOW NAHHHH BUT UH CHECK OUT MY MUSIC http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/CAPRICE811

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Rational1983/ Rational1983

    I was into music when Pac was with digital underground, so when I say he was the best, its not jocking, its the truth!! Songs like Brenda’s got a baby, Keep ya head up, Unconditional love, Hail mary,Wonder why they call you b*tch, Me against the world, Changes,Dear Mama, etc…
    Biggie was great, Pac was phenominal

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/IWalkAlone247/ IWalkAlone247

    Consider the source….

    This is the same magazine with editors who know NOTHING if it’s not about how big an over-rated chicks ASS is…

    Come on now…Pac doesn’t even NEED an introduction or a defense….just saying his NAME in ANY circle makes everybody’s brain light up….so why even debate with these King cornballs?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/one_great_man/ one_great_man

    I guess they figured pac has been dead for a while so now we can talk s**t about him. Yet when he was around they were the same motherf**kers buying every album and jocking for a f**king interview oh how the world turns. F**k name me one pac album that didn’t have a song that everyone can relate to? Now the rap game is about fantasy island most of these rappers aren’t living the lifestyle they portray and you can’t even understand half of them. They are using nursery rhymes for hooks (undele undele eeeyah eeeyah oh ohhhhh= bulls**t) You gotta wonder how some of these guys even got a f**king record deal. But you see then thing that people hate most about pac was that he was IMO the epitome of the black experience here in america he was the emodiment of everything good and bad in the black existance and that made him a voice to be silenced. Now you got these judas ass motherf**kers slandering him saying he’s not all that. I wonder who they think is at the top when the industry isn’t even about talent anymore. There is so much more that could be said but i will end with this tupac died for what he believed in and cannot speak to defend himself how dare anyone dishonor him by slandering him in such a manner. I have never bought a copy of KING and after hearing this i never will.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RAW_The_Rebirth/ RAW_The_Rebirth

    WAKE ME UP WHEN YA’LL DO THE TOP TEN MOST UNDERRATED MC’S AND MAKE SURE YOU SPELL THE NAME RIGHT…IT’S TWO T’S, MASERATTI RIC! ALSO KNOWN AS R.A.W. CHECK ME OUT AT http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/ONEACCORDMUSICGROUP. I’M NOT GONNA WASTE TOO MUCH ENERGY ON THIS TOPIC BECAUSE PEOPLE DON’T TALK ABOUT YOU A DECADE AFTER YOU DIE IF YOU’RE AVERAGE AT ANYTHING. REST IN PEACE ‘PAC…YOUR LYRICS GET BROKEN DOWN IN IVY LEAGUE COLLEGES NOW!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/arozendaghetto/ arozendaghetto

    I think Tupac always has been and always will be among the greatest rappers of all time. And when I say rapper, I mean those who have a strong lyrical message in their rhymes. Words and messages that actually make sense. Granted there were many times Tupac’s words were quite harsh, especially on women. However he did balanced it out with explaining why he used the terms. For example,”Wonder why they call you B—-”, “Brenda’s got a baby”, and the homey-lover-friend rap ballad, “Never call you B—- again. On the flipside you got, “Keep your head up”, “Baby Don’t Cry”, “Changes”…

    All in all, much of Tupac’s lyrics were spoken out of pain and anger, yet there was still much that could be learned from his lyrics. Although I don’t support any rapper who use their gift of rhyme to demean women, I do believe in words that will give tough love. Words that will shake them up and wake women up if it could save their life and influence them to respect themselves as a woman and human being.

    I think rappers today can learn a lot from Tupac and other rappers back in the 90′s and even the 80′s. After all, aren’t these the people that influenced them to get into the business in the first place?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Blitz79/ Blitz79

    Berry Gordy once said “if you were down to your last dollar would you buy this album or a sandwich? Geuiness Book of World records, 5 Mics from the source and 2 diamond status albums says 2Pac was more than an average MC. Or maybe I’m mistakin?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/qadavis/ qadavis

    So I guess since nobody wants to buy magazines with nothing but naked women in them, they are going to talk bad about MC’s who were actually MC’s. Damn shame. King mag couldn’t end it with a little class, they had to go and try to start beef with a man who isn’t even with us any longer. But let them say what they want. In a few months King magazine will be forgotten. But Tupac will never be.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/chiefa28/ chiefa28

    2PAC WAS ANYTHING BUT AVERAGE AS FAR AS MC’S GO. NOW AVERAGE I LOVE THE DUDE BUT BIGGIE WASN’T THE COLDEST EITHER. I MEAN LETS BE REAL NAS AND BIG L WAS COLDER LYRICALLY. 2PAC WAS SOMETHING ON A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL THAN ANY OTHER ARTIST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT HE WAS THE ONE ARTIST WHO YOUR 6 YEAR-OLD SISTER TO YOUR 78 YEAR-OLD GRAND MAMA WOULD ASK OR WANT TO LISTEN TO. BESIDE THE SCARE THING BOUT PAC IS HE WASN’T EVEN AT HIS PEAK YET. DIG THAT!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR-MAGIC-MAN/ MR-MAGIC-MAN

    This is a joke right?

    Maybe king or somebody need to go find out what MC actually means first before they go saying that pac was average..LOL

    The main problem I have with this kind of list is these rappers usually get judged on their image, not their talent (if they have any at all) like 95% of all music entertainers these days.

    Secondly they pick “Rappers” and then try to rate them as MC’s. Pac’s problem is he was both a rapper and an MC. At times he let his street nature make him a rapper on some songs, but other times he was an MC due to listening to the human side of himself that we all can relate to. Therefore, it’s not easy to categorize pac. Anyone who has followed him since way before he shared mics with digital underground (the world never heard of pac then), you will know that pac was far better than average, period.

    IN my opinion, had pac lived he would be up there with KRS (a real MC) because pac was already showing signs of getting to this level. Big on the other hand had far to go..when he died, he was still a puppet for puffy like all bad boy artist are. Puffy was forcing big to put out commercial music to make money…puffy don’t care about MC’s…it’s puffy’s way or the highway…just look at the track record on bad boy artist after dealing with puff.

    So yeah, just becuase your hot at the moment and all the buzz is on you (usually last about a 3 year span), you will always be considered great…this is were big was at…he didn’t have time to show who he truly was as an artist…he was still spittin out Puffy approved tracks. he died too soon in his career…he was gone before his second album. Give me about 5 more years of Big. some projects without puffy’s name on it and then I could truly rate him on how great he was or wasn’t.

    But polls like this one here, stop it…it’s ridiculous…your just trying to hype up king magazine and get people to buy it…I hope no one believes this crap.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mike_diesel27/ mike_diesel27

    This has got to be a joke!! Whoever wrote that article in “Queen” Magazine must be smokin’ dip! But I bet they’re saying B.I.G. was greatest of all time. Biggie’s best verse couldn’t even compare to Pac’s worst verse. And I’m from Louisiana so, I ain’t being biased. The person who wrote this article should be the center of a public execution for saying some B.S. like this…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/stl_playa_83/ stl_playa_83

    WOW!!! what makes a great MC? 2pac was a great artist one of my fave of all time. though he lack some of the clever punch line and mind twisting lyrics. he was still great in his own ways. his songs inspired you and you can actually invision what he was saying in them. how many songs today can change your mood like his songs did.

    And far as lil wayne, its about time somebody actualy agrees with me, that guy is garbage. he is the most overated rapper ive ever seen its like the richer he gets the more his lyrics SUCKS!!!! who cares you can rhyme words like your name is DR. Sues but at least his rhymes made since.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DALLASFANN1/ DALLASFANN1

    f**k king!!!!pac was the best

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoDelicious09/ SoDelicious09

    I love this man too and I agree that this must be some kind of joke… But one thing I don’t get is the fact that when someone posts a blog or article about how average Pac was or how overrated he is (Did the same person write both these articles? LOL. Ignorant Ass)the whole BP gets up here and protests the hell out of it. I see responses long enough to be full newspaper articles and books theres plenty. I think some people just created a BP account for the sole purpose of cursing the author of this article out. LOL. Ya’ll too funny. But anyway, this is a dumb ass article and whoever did it definitely generated the responses they wanted. I won’t comment on it because everyone else already has done it for me. Thanks

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Deangeles/ Deangeles

    HAAAAA, PAC needs no defense from some clown who can’t rap himself. Never even heard of King. Must be some local azz mag tryin to get points off a dead man! No f’in class what so ever!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoDelicious09/ SoDelicious09

    And by the way, that’s not even the most over rated MC’s list. Yall got cursed out for it and changed it, revised it, and took PAC off the damn list so please dont try to front and act like you dont know.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_Lee_/ _Lee_

    I cant convince all yall but I know im convinced that Tupac is a great rapper. Tupac expressed his own emotions, whether they were hidden or out in the open, and gave outcast’d people of that time a message. A message that basically said your not alone. Any rapper that can make his listeners feel as if they are not alone, reguardless what subject he’s rapping about, you will amount to greatness. Thats the same as T.I. He uses both words wisdom and words of experience, 2 things people can vibe to in order to make his hits.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/K_G_21/ K_G_21

    2pac Shakur is not overrated. but i will agree with your list. except for PAC of course. but i have a few suggestions to add to the list: T.I., Kanye West, Ludacris. just to name a few

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/K_G_21/ K_G_21

    and The Game should be on this list as well.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lounge/ lounge

    Pac dead or alive was able to bring something out of ppl with his music. Was relavant and real music from a real person with real drama. Hell for some ppl its easier to listen to a pac album then read the newspaper. Lastly I know too many who can spit but there are very few who can write and put it down for consumer consumption. Im not even a fan just real recognize real and im from Oakland. Its a different type a nigga come from round here

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/marcjam1/ marcjam1

    F**k King.pac will remain the greatest

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ExpressiveGemini/ ExpressiveGemini

    I wasn’t the biggest fan but I cant say he was overrated, he touched the lives of to many people, the media of course would focus on all the negative things to ruin his credibility. when i look at the whole situation, in a nutshell Pac was some what of a Malcom X freedom figher type of figure but at the same time indulged in the wrong things as well, he was living contradiction a Gemini like me, cought up in two worlds, Pac was a black panther at heart if you really paid attention to his interviews and some of his lyrics, he wasn’t a rapper he was a lyricist, poetic light minded energetic type of person. He truly cared about his people and im sure if he was living he would have tried to raise enough people to over throw the government, i believe this is the reason he was taken away from us because he had to much power, so did Biggie.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BabyJokerKCMO/ BabyJokerKCMO

    I cant believe these stupd ass mothaf**kas think that 2Pac is overated, Brenda’s Gotta Baby, Keep Ya Head Up, Dear Mama, Baby Dont Cry, those songs alone she be celebrated, his music is way more important than this bulls**t ass music now a days nigga’s talking about getting sucked like a loli pop, and doing the f**king stinky leg and making songs about eating b***hes pussies, and talking about she threw it at me like pork chop, THIS WACK ASS!!! S**T NOW A DAYS ISNT MORE IMPORTANT THAN 2PAC F**K KING MAGIZINE AND BLACKPLANET FOR SAYING THAT S**T, YOU KNOW SOME WHITE MOTHAF**KA OR SOME UNCLE TOM PUT THOSE LIST TOGETHER!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com//

    pac wasnt an average MC,he is the best

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CNoriega/ CNoriega

    I can easily see the other people they listed, but not 2pac. His fame and talent surpassed just rap music.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/L_Jizzle616/ L_Jizzle616

    2Pac Average!!!? Wtf the media never like Tupac because he spoke what was real. I have all of his records, all of them have strong messages in them. The quote on quote hip hop now is I’m a drug god, and eating pussies, I shot a nigga that’s hip hop!!!? C’mon now F**k King Magazine F**k All the haters, that’s envying a dead brother. Let him rest in peace Love and miss Makaveli, but through his music he lives on. Get the f**k outta Here!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Toodamreal/ Toodamreal

    This is some bulls*** I admit to be more of a biggie fan but Pac come on. How old are yall? Are you old enough to have heard him or seen him. Tupac the leader of the revolution.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cBentley21/ cBentley21

    Wow Come On… Tupac’s use of Lyrics told better stories and Alowed the listener to visualize his music…
    Not to mention the poetics of his lyrics…
    King MAG Lost my RESPECT for this…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com//

    you are to young to understand Pac. or just a over done Biggie fan either way It just your opinion!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BMCCAINE/ BMCCAINE

    i was a tupac fan, but he was overrated. big was overrated too.
    and i am a tupac and biggie fan still.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Girth757/ Girth757

    2Pac is a Grandfather in rap, he birth DMX, JA Rule, Nas, Even less notable rappers like Lil Zane. Some jocked his flow, some jocked his lifestyle (lil wayne), some just jocked his style (the three first rappers i named). People tend to forget what era Tupac came from, Im not bout to start quoting his lyrics. Overrated? F*** Outta Here!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MADEMAN28/ MADEMAN28

    WHO EVER WROTE THAT ARTICLE IN KING MAGAZINE IS A IDIOT, AND DONT KNOW HIP HOP, OR SHOULD I SAY THE DEFINITION OF A TRUE RAPPER. U CAN PUT A TRILOGY OF PAC OLD SONGS TOGETHER RIGHT NOW AND PUT A RELEASE DATE ON IT, AND IT WILL GO DOUBLE PLATINUM IN A WEEK!!! U CAN PUT KING MAGAZINE ON A BOOK STAND NEXT TO CURIOUS GEORGE AND CURIOUS GEORGE WILL SELL FIRST. IT A SHAME HOW BLACK MEDIA, KILLS ITS OWN PEOPLE, LET ALONE ALREADY DECEASED PEOPLE. THE QUESTION IS THOUGH, WHAT THE F**K IS KING MAGAZINE??

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BedRock_24/ BedRock_24

    “few instances of mind-boggling verses or innovative flows” ?????————- This is obviously someone with a personal vendetta against Pac or someone under the age of 24 or just a dummy!!!

    Mind-boggling how someone says the most ignorant rant and folks, WHO KNOW BETTER, just follow along.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/afriend4life2008/ afriend4life2008

    wow king has lost their damn mind… tupac to me along with biggie, they was the best to ever do it in this time .for ya’ll to even print that is a upset ,i can argue about plies and and rick ross to …but for you put a legend like pac ….KING IS WRONG FOR THAT BULLS**T

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Illy-Sase/ Illy-Sase

    Wow…after all the praise we gave him yrs ago…and even after his death. Now KING and “others” wanna say hes OVER RATED?…This a bulls**t ass pot.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Benzly/ Benzly

    HMMM Intersting But to me Pac was a poet Deep with his songs … but on the other hand being clever with word and Flow wise he was not amazing its just FACTS … and no matter how we love pac Thats just the truth .. Big pun and BIGGIE wee better at flow and being Clever with there words .. but Pac wrote from the heart .. some guy put up here that pac gave birth to Nas .. please obviously he doesn’t know much about Hip hop.
    I love them both but we got to give credit to each in what they were good at.

    peace

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KISSBROWN/ KISSBROWN

    u dumb mutha f**kA u no pac was the coldest ever he has complet not incomplet from hooks to versus haf these niggas dont be maken since they just rappin pac s**t still relavent to this day and work hard wrightin not freestylen wrightin hits plus niggas was scared to say s**t weather they felt he was real or fake nobody sad nothing pac nas and em aint no best all these niggas talk about is there wealth

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BADESTB1TCH_18/ BADESTB1TCH_18

    OK PEOPLE CALM DWN AS WE ALL CAN SEE KING IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS AND NEED 2 MKE UP SOME DUMB S**T QUICK BUT NO OFFENSE TO THE B.I.G FANS I’LL LITSEN TO PAC ANY DAY OVER HIM!!!!!!!! BSDS HE’S DEAD WAT WAS THIER POINT ON THIS AGAIN????

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ray_A/ Ray_A

    “Sure there is plenty of ‘real talk’ but few instances of mind-boggling verses or innovative flows….Wow this statement in itself is a contradiction. This has obviously never listen to songs like “Me and My Girlfriend”, “Hail Mary”, “Shed So Many Tears” or “Troublesome”. Pac was ahead of his time and still is. Why do you think Lil Wayne can only make the claim “best rapper alive”. Cuz we all know who was the best ever!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PRIME-FLO/ PRIME-FLO

    Man the mf that wrote this is either from the east coast or a biggie fan or both . Get over it everyone else in the world knows Pac was the g.o.a.t stop letting the loyalty to your hood cloud your judgment .

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Motown_Lovely1/ Motown_Lovely1

    Anything to drum up readers, ah? There are a number of rappers they could have labled as ok or average. But Pac, come on. If King believes this to be true of Pac, who in the hell do they consider to be great? And for God’s sake please don’t say Biggie

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rajarabbit/ rajarabbit

    Yeah they are just tryin to sell some mags. Who tha f**k is King anyway? I never bought that s**t.

    2PAC is the greatest rapper ever. He can do the commercial thing to get him radio play and then suck you in his album to hear his interpretation on life, politics, and the street.

    I always say this, when PAC died…RAP died.

    You have rappers like wack ass fagot ass lil wayne out there making money saying stupid s**t. But hey thats just the way it is now. All the wack rappers are seeing their payday.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCybogg/ BlackCybogg

    “ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME” OR 2PAC COS U AND UR SUPPORTERS ARE TO DULL TO KNOW WHATS UP.
    U DON’T HAVE A WORD TO SHARE
    2PAC STILL REMAINS BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME, LOOK AT THE PICTURE CLEARLY, HOW MANY OF U ASSHOLES HAVE ACTUALLY FOUGHT TO PLACE A HAPPY SMILE ON THE DAYS OF OTHER PEOPLE IN AND AROUND YOUR COUNTRY, THE WAY I SEE IT, U KINDERGARTEN ASS HAS WILL ONLY MAKE FAME DESTROYING WHAT OTHERS HAVE STRUGGLED TO BUILD, UR WORDS DON’T EVER HELP THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES, AND THAT HURTS U, SO THE ONLY WAY U THINK WOULD BENEFIT U AS TO GETTING SOME DAILY MEAL IS TO WRITE FALSE STORIES ABOUT A LEGEND WHO DID MORE OF WHAT UR PARENTS TRAINED U TO DO IN LIFE, DEAD OR ALIVE, 2PAC WILL KEEP DOING MORE THAN UR SORRY ASS KING. AND U CAN BET ON THAT, KING HAVE U EVER BEEN SHOT?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DUERTTY_SC_MAIN/ DUERTTY_SC_MAIN

    are yall f**king crazy or on drugs are sumum

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/HotRodBaby/ HotRodBaby

    Point blank period TUPAC should not be anywhere near this list. Pac was one of the greatest rap icons because of his VERSATILITY, he was able to switch subject matter constantly displaying knowledge not only of the streets but politics, religion, history, etc. Come on man, stop relating his name with these corny, opinionated, biased lists. It’s getting ridiculous. Yeah he and Biggie died too soon and the entire hip hop game suffered for it. Stop trippin with this bullsh*t. G’COSTE

    http://WWW.CANDYSTO.COM

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DUERTTY_SC_MAIN/ DUERTTY_SC_MAIN

    KING YALL NIGGAZ MUST BE FROM NEW YORK.THATS WHY YALL SAID THAT BULLS**T BOUT PAC.YALL NIGGAZ STILL SORE ABOUT HITEM UP.2PAC A AVERAGE MC!!.I WILL NOT SPEND A COIN ON A F**KIN KINGS MAGAZINE.NO MATTER HOW FINE THE B***H IS ON THE COVER.JAY-Z,NAS,BIGGIE NONE OF DEM CAN COME CLOSE TO PAC.THE NIGGA SOLD 100 MILLION RECORDS.50 MILL IN THE U.S. ALONE.IF WAS STILL ALIVE MOST OF THE NIGGAZ OUT NOW WOULD BE PUSHING BACK THERE ALBUM RELEASE DATE.KING YALL IS F**KING STUPID AS ALL HELL.OH YEAH ALMOST FORGOT ITS MAKAVELI NOT 2PAC.HE CHANGE HIS RAP NAME BEFORE HE DIED.YALL B***H MADE MUTHA F**KAS!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MIKE83/ MIKE83

    i think pac was on his way on becoming a lyrecal rapper you can here on macavali be he still the best of all time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shippper2009/ shippper2009

    the fact that pac is an overrated mc shouldn’t take away from what he did for hip hop music in general. he is the one we have to thank for turning hip hop into what it is today hip pop

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dreadtherasta/ dreadtherasta

    As a rapper you can argue how good of a commercial rapper he is and blah blah blah.. But his real contribution came in the form of his poetry and his gift of spreading knowledge. Most people don’t know about the truth he learned while in prison, which is reason why he came out as Macheveli when he got. Research Tupac’s research of the Illuminati and the New World Order and you will find he figured all of these worldly secrets out and wanted to express them in an album called “Killuminati” At that time he had full creative freedom over his albums and could put anything out. The top officials of the world elite a.k.a. the Illuminati found out about this and ended him quick. The facts are all there. Look it up. WAKE UP! How many fallen martyrs must go before we all wake up to the puppetmasters who control this planet!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/charisma_g/ charisma_g

    Since when did King Magazine become the source for intellectual conversation. Tupac was on another level. He was intellectual enough to ponder the social ills of the hood and real enough to ride in it. King stick to selling @$$!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/youngthorobred/ youngthorobred

    Pac was never that great. His death made him the icon that is being remembered for. Biggie was always more talented and more influential for me. I don’t why there all of sudden millions of people who can relate to pac, like they grew with him, I can say I did, the rest of ya’ll didn’t. Another thing is how many of you have his first two underground album with dmc,daddy kane when he didnt even sound hood. Ya nyggas is lame and jumping on the death wagon. Jay-z we not even gonna speak on him, he is an icon be default. He was the only one to survive the early 90′s by making pop music and laying low. He’s a biter and everyone knows it. He has been exposed. Wayne is the best hand down, his lyrics are nasty spitting double metaphors, plays on words, and complex similes!! come on man you can be serious.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/15snowman/ 15snowman

    Opinions are just like A holes. We all got one. Some of us are one. But that is another story. It is all relative. Every single argument except for record sales.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cocokingpin662/ cocokingpin662

    king ull can suck a dick…tupac shouldnt be no where on this list…if u do ur research even rappers he dissed said he was the best and still had respect for him like my nigga said ull must be from the east coast and im from the west im from the south,,,ull homos need to get ull s**t right

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ManChillinNCali/ ManChillinNCali

    Pac is the greatest…he’s the Marvin Gaye of my era…you don’t like that he didn’t use a bunch of tricky wordplay that sometimes makes no sense at all? I remember Me n My girlfriend, my uncle loved that song thinking the whole time he was talking about a woman. My parents who couldn’t stand rap, listened to Pac n although they might not have liked all his songs, they felt him, and bought a couple of his cds. They wouldn’t waste a penny to download most of the rap out today to their ipod. Hell the man told stories, made you think n listen. You felt what he was spitting on every track. He was the first to drop a double cd All Eyes on Me n that s**t slapped front to back. I remember rushing to the store at midnight to pick it up n play it all night, all year long. It’s not like today where rappers have a hook n a beat, all the s**t in between is just that s**t! But no matter what ppl will have their opinions no matter how f**ked up they are, n thats how i feel about ppl saying Pac was average. He set a new bar in rap, n these wack ass wannabe thug rappers couldn’t reach his level even if they stole his lyrics. RIP 2PAC!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/a_tall_romantic/ a_tall_romantic

    Wow I thought KING Mag was done I thought they went out of business, I see why bashing the greatest like that. Na but real talk, Pac over rated? How? In what way, I’m not saying he was the most lyrical but as far as subject matter you can’t deny him. He was rappin about s**t others weren’t rapping about. Brenda Had A Baby? You serious, people thought Brenda was a real person, Keep Ya Head Up, in songs now a days w/men talking about that in a bad way he was talking about in in a positive, I mean he wasn’t all about the Ice, Cars and hoes, he rapped about REAL LIFE S**T! Most rappers on that material crap, hell even I Ain’t Mad At Cha. I mean I can go on for days, even acting, he could have gave up rap and been a actor he was smart enough to be a professor, anybody don’t like Pac do me a favor go on youtube or wherever you can find it and listen to his Last Interview its like 90+ mins, listen to that and that’ll change your mind about dude.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NICEGUYSOFLY2009/ NICEGUYSOFLY2009

    REAL TALK WHO BE POSTING THESE BLOGS!? TUPAC SPREAD REAL TRUE KNOWLEDGE IN HIS MUSIC. ALOT OF PEOPLE DNT KNOW WHY HE WAS TRUELY KILLED. IF PAC WAS AROUND ALOT OF THIS B.S. I HEAR WOULDNT BE HERE. THINK ABOUT WHERE WOULD JAY- Z B? OR ALOT OF THESE OTHER CATS. N REAL PEOPLE FELT HIS MUSIC N THEY HEART!!!!! LOL, THINKING ABOUT IT BLACKPLANET WOULD POST SOME DUMB STUFF LIKE CAUSE BLACK PEOPLE TRUELY DNT OWN NOTHING ANYWAYS.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shoot4damoon/ shoot4damoon

    The title says it all, “king says”. No wonder their folding,lol.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shoot4damoon/ shoot4damoon

    King magazine is a bunch of dildos….Pac is rap! Alot of dudes still dont rap better than pac and he been dead for like 1000 years,lol. This is just disrespectul on their part.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/vmancapon2009/ vmancapon2009

    again with the bulls**t. alright pac overrated cool cool. but where tha hell is biggie? (baby)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kaponejr/ Kaponejr

    I agree with every1 on this forum, umm (KING MAGAZINE) you’ve made the most ignorant comment that i’ve heard ALL year, ya obviously MUST b from New York…an still pissed about tha fact that Makaveli threw you niggaz n tha trash, and y’all is jus startin 2 climb 2 a decent hieght of the ladder. From then till current present day time U b***h made niggaz is still madd…cuz Now it’s the south, westcoast, THEN YOU NIGGAZ. Don’t get me wrong Pun was coo…BUT he got all his swag from pac goddamit an now since he done came out wit his movie u b***h niggas dont kno how to act. All in respect to my O.G. Pac F**K KING MAGAZINE, F**K HARRIS PUBLICATIONS, FuUCK BIGGIE, AND WHOEVA ELSE WANNA SIDE WIT DIS JEALOUS FANTASY KING TAUNT. YALL KAN ALL SUCK MY DICK AN LICK MY NIGGA PACS BALLS! PUNK, GAY, SENSITIVE, LITTLE DICK BASTARDS. PUNKS!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kaponejr/ Kaponejr

    I agree with every1 on this forum, umm (KING MAGAZINE) you’ve made the most ignorant comment that i’ve heard ALL year, ya obviously MUST b from New York…an still pissed about tha fact that Makaveli threw you niggaz n tha trash, and y’all is jus startin 2 climb 2 a decent hieght of the ladder. From then till current present day time U b***h made niggaz is still madd…cuz Now it’s the south, westcoast, THEN YOU NIGGAZ. Don’t get me wrong Pun was coo…BUT he got all his swag from pac goddamit an now since he done came out wit his movie u b***h niggas dont kno how to act. Makaveli the greatest rapper of ALL TIME…no 1 till this day came out with they own thug code, dictionary, or books with poetry. All in respect to my O.G. Pac F**K KING MAGAZINE, F**K HARRIS PUBLICATIONS, FuUCK BIGGIE, AND WHOEVA ELSE WANNA SIDE WIT DIS JEALOUS FANTASY KING BULLSHYT. YALL KAN ALL SUCK MY DICK AN LICK MY NIGGA PACS BALLS! PUNK, GAY, SENSITIVE, LITTLE DICK BASTARDS. PUNKS!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mistanycegui/ mistanycegui

    Wow 1st magazine to get it spot on! I really f**ks with King now. Pac influence is without question he is the 1st rapper to become bigger then the actual art form. An old farmer in deep Kentucky who may not be able to name a single rap song off top…after 96 would even know who Pac was. He was rap 1st ‘Super Star’ he made keepin up ur ‘rap image’ a full time job. (this actually ruins alot of rappers…forces dudes to keep it ’2 real’ ALL THE TIME!) Before him rappers were like Wrestlers…sure Undertaker is a bad dead man ‘on camera’ but outside of the ring prolly one of the nicest guys u could ever meet who knows…Same s**t with Run DMC outside of videos,interviews, music no one knew what the hell they did in there spare time. Pac changed all that, he was a marketing genius turned his bad situation into great press for himself…made the whole world realize ‘hey we need 2 watch these rapper guys…who knows what they might do next’…He basically almost single-handedly took rap mainstream. But lyrically…as in just words (not his monstrous delivery included) he was pretty average

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigapplefashions/ bigapplefashions

    Anyone who thinks Tupac was an average MC is just a player hater. His lyrics were real and about real life.Not the fabulous life about bling’n things. Most people live life from the gutta`up and not from a fabulous life of bling’n things.He was a natural.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BD_Fella_From_Jerz/ BD_Fella_From_Jerz

    Whoever wrote this article need to go back, and listen to any 2Pac song over, and over, and over again. Don’t just listen to the beat, listen to the Lyrics, and if you can still make that statement that he was an average MC, then you and whomever listens to you are “Lost Ones,” as NAS another Far Above Average MC!!!!!!!!

    ~1~

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PrinceOfCali/ PrinceOfCali

    Pac was average? Who wrote that bulls**t. Pac was and still is the Pope of rap. He was one of the few who talked the talk and walked the walk, thats what made him real. “They told me not to roll with my clock, so now I got a throw away, floating in a black benz, trying to do a show a day”. Nigga that’s real talk. Pac rapped with passion, you can’t buy that s**t at your nearest shopping center.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/JamakinBoy/ JamakinBoy

    lmao!!! King mag i agree…Mistanycegui I agree… n Kaponejr…im lmao @ u… why u so emotional b? U callin niccas gay n sensitive… but u da 1 screamin n referin 2 anotha mans dick n ballz!!! I think u mite of been attracted 2 Pac not his music…lls!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ethelsledge1/ ethelsledge1

    TUPAC’S WORDS SAYS IT ALL, NOT MANY “AS YOU GUY SAY MC” ARE THAT DEEP “DEAR MAMA” EVEN AN OLD MOTHER CAN RELATE TO THE WORDS, YES HE HAD TIMES
    DOWNING SOME WOMEN BUT HE ALWAYS TOLD YOU WHY ” WONDA WHY THEY CALL B***H” NO MAN IS WITH OUT FAULT AND HE ALWAYS SAID THAT. WHAT’S FUNNY TO ME IS EVEN MOST RAPPERS SAY HE ONE OF HE TOP “MC” AND I BELEVE IF HE WAS STILL HERE THERE WOULD BE OTHER RAPPERS BUT NONE TOUCHING HIM. AND RAP HASN’T BEEN THE SAME SINCE HE’S BE GONE.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sexy_shea18/ sexy_shea18

    R THEY F**KIN SERIOUS!!! TUPAC RAPPED ABOUT S**T THAT PEOPLE COULD REALLY RELATE TO!!! I LOVE HIS MUSIC AND I STILL PLAY IT ALL THE TIME!!! YOU COULD RELATE TO HIM UNLIKE THESE F**KEN WANNABES TODAY!!! KING YALL MUTHAF**KAS SICK IN THE HEAD!!! GET YALL S**T STRAIGHT!!! FOR REAL CUS I’M SO PISSED!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigkapre/ bigkapre

    I cant believe what i just now read! you’re gonna tell me pac was ok? just because he was crankin that soulja boy and doing those other stupid ass kiddy songs doesnt mean he was “OK” just like lil wayne said. f**k em f**k em f**k em even if they’re celebent! F**K ANYONE ELSE WHO AGREES WITH THIS S**T TOO! The only people who reads king magazine are the one who dont get any!! thats just real talk. but wait im not dissin the south, not by a long shot 7 of my top 15 are south niggas. but what im saying is these days you have mutha f**kas making poppy dance music and expect us to follow tread. No! F**k No! anyone male or female over 21 doing those dances and singing word for word need to be suga free slapped (pimp slapped) Just because you stupid f**ks like that s**t doesnt mean you have to bring a very gifted and taleneted,person like tupac in the mix.Im not going to say he’s the best because rap is not over when rap dies then we will crown the best of all times and so far, aint nobody even close to taking it expect biggie and jay but, in my book pac has that title hands down. I bet the ones who say and think Pac was ok believe lil romeo is better than andre 3000 or aaron carter can out rap jay-z. u numb nuts. This is just like the talk when they say jordan wasnt the best player and they keep tryn compare him to others and down grade him. Listen to that tupac song “aint hard to find” at the end of his verse he say If you dont like this rhyme, well bring your big bad ass to california cause we aint hard find!! nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/IAmKing27/ IAmKing27

    Okay, I’ve been reading a lot of the comments posted on here and finally decided to give my input. Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the truth is the truth. 2Pac was the Greatest Rapper in History. To this date, he is more known over the world among middle and young adults than an other rapper in the past and present. Some may disagree, but let me take this to another level. If 2Pac wasn’t the Greatest Rapper of All Time, then tell me why are there so many Rappers out now still mentioning him in their songs, trying to imitate him or even take photo shots similar to Pac? Don’t know of any rappers. Hmmm. Let’s see, Lil’ Wayne, Jay-Z, Nas, Ja Rule, DMX, T. I. and even 50 Cents. These are some of the heavy hitters. Even Keisha Cole is using him in one of her songs. We all know that if Pac was alive he would Rip any and everyone out today. As a matter of fact, with all of the garbage out today, I still listen to the old school hits; especially Pac. The man was a genius. Don’t get me wrong. We do have some new blood out there, but they didn’t become hard like that until Pac died. Before Pac died, the West Coast was King and not self-proclaimed like some illiterate magazine agency. I’m from the South, but I give props to whom props are due. Diddy is my boy and Biggie was too, but as far as that movie is concerned, Biggie wasn’t the greatest. Biggie was a very close second. Don’t think so? Biggie built his hits on fashion and money making. That’s all well and good. But Tupac built his Empire, his HITS on philosophy. I’m talking about the real Machiavelli. Don’t know who he was? Try going to Books-A-Million and pick up a copy of, “The Prince”. King is you’re to slow to do even that, I will teach you. The United States of America was built in part upon the belief system in which the Real Machiavelli created and the of the Roman civilization. Now, did Biggie incorporate history, philosophy and the governing “Laws of Power” and “The Art of War” into his lyrics? I think not. Or did they just steal hits from the 80’s and made then, “Sound So Crazy?” as Puffy stated…. Real Talk…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bigkapre/ bigkapre

    you know what? princeof cali,ethelsledge1,sexy_shay are some of the most well put together comments on here real talk!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/papawes/ papawes

    Pac talked about relevant issues in his community, not about bling this and bling that like todays MC’s, you can hear the passion in his voice and the conviction in his words. You can listen to anyone of his albums right now no matter how old because hey still go hard. King mag is trippin and that columnist wouldnt know good music if it slapped him in the face.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/leunka/ leunka

    i say to each his own. just cause they think pac was average doesn’t mean i do. it’s their opinion and who made them the lyric police. Those that are rating the mc’s can’t rap so why should i let them tell me who is average or not. I loved Pac because he spoke the truth and he lived it as well. I could relate to him because we grew up in the ghetto not the same one but every ghetto is the same. he was the voice of the ghetto. he knew the definition of poor not like some of these rappers who lived fairly comfortable lives. he was dirt poor with a crackhead mama. how many of us couldn’t relate to his struggles. he will always be # 1 in my book as the greatest.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/50-below/ 50-below

    I’ll lay it out for this clown that wrote the article very simple and plain… “If his lyrics weren’t innovative why does everybody steal them??? No rapper in history has been more imitated, copied, and bit off of than PAC. And oh by the way….. “Until the end of Time” out-sold “The blue Print 2″…. AND HE WASN’T EVEN ALIVE FOR THE PRODUCTION PROCESS!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shadsbaby07/ shadsbaby07

    WOW!!! FAREAL??? KING MAGAZINE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT BUT THE STREETS SAY DIFFERENT…TUPAC WAS ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL RAPPERS IN HIPHOP! COME ON! WORLD WIDE HE HAS TO BE THE MOST POPULAR RAPPER EVER! NOT ONLY WAS HE A RAPPER HE WAS A POET…HE SPOKE REAL AND PEOPLE IDENTIFIED WITH HIS WORDS AND SONGS…U CAN GO TO ANY HOOD TO THIS DAY AND NIGGAS IS STILL BUMPIN HIS MUSIC…AND NIGGAS IS STILL BUYING HIS ALBUMS…AND ITS NOT JUST BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE “THINKS” THE MAN WAS GREAT. ITS BECAUSE IN FACT THE MANS LYRICAL CONTENT AND TALENT WAS GREAT…IS GREAT! TUPAC WAS A THUG WHICH MANY PEOPLE CAN IDENTIFY WITH…HE LIVED A THUGS LIFE…BUT HE WAS ALSO A CONSCIOUS PERSON…HE WAS DEDICATED TO SOCIAL CHANGE…AND RIGHTING THE WRONGS OF HISTORY! I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED THAT ANYONE WOULD DISAGREE, BUT THEN AGAIN THERE’S ALWAYS THE HATERS! AND THIS IS STRAIGHT UP HATE! BUT DO WHAT U DO…CONTINUE TO PISS OFF THE MASSES! CAUSE REAL RECOGNIZES REAL…THATS JUST BOTTOM LINE…PERIOD!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mz_Pleazure1/ Mz_Pleazure1

    I CAN’T BELIEVE KING MAGAZINE EVEN HAD THE NERVE TO DIS SOMEONE AS COOL AS PAC. I MEAN GET REAL PAC WAS N STILL IS THE S**T. YOU KNOW YOUR THE S**T WHEN PPL STILL LOVE YOU WHEN YOU’VE BEEN DEAD FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS. BECAUSE I STILL LISTEN TO PAC HE WAS DA PURE S**T. RAPPERS NOW DAYS AINT BOUT S**T I MEAN YEAH I LISTEN TO SOME PPL NOW BUT THEY COULD NEVA AMOUNT TO THE STATUS I HOLD PAC AT WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC. I AINT GON LIE MY BOY T.I IS ALMOST THERE N I JUST STARTED GETTIN INTO LIL WAYNE. BUT BEFORE THAT IT WAS BOUT PAC N NOBODY ELSE. I AINT EVEN LIKE JAY-Z LIKE THAT UNTIL HE CAME OUT WITH “THE AMERICAN GANGSTER” ALBUM ANY ALBUM HE PUT OUT B4 THEN I LIKE A FEW SONGS HERE N THERE. BUT I DO GIVE JAY-Z PROPS FOR WHAT HE’S DOING AS AN ARTISIT BUT PAC WAS THE REAL DEAL. PAC EXPRESSED REAL LIFE SITUATIONS IN HIS MUSIC N TOLD WOMEN TO KEEP THEIR HEAD UP NO MATTER HOW HARD LIFE SEEMED. PAC TELLS A F**KIN STORY THAT CAN MAKE YOU CRY, MAKE YOU LAUGH, MAKE YOU MAD, N MAKE YOU LISTEN AND RE-EVALUATE YOUR LIFE. NOT MANY RAPPERS CAN DO THAT AND KING HAS THE NERVE TO SAY HE WAS A AVERAGE MC. YALL GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. IM REP FOR PAC REGAURDLESS BCUZ HIS MUSIC IS GANGSTER N IT’S TOUCHING N HE’S A GEMINI JUST LIKE MYSELF AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE AND DEAD…. AND YALL BE THINKING LIL WAYNE OLD BROKE DOWN ASS IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE YALL BETTA GET YALL GAME UP N GET REALL ROUND HERE. THIS IS MORE THAN AN OPINION THIS IS FACTS N IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT GO TO CLOSE YOUR EYES…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/love_potion_9/ love_potion_9

    Pac The Best To Ever Do It .

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blacksax2008/ blacksax2008

    ALL I SAY IS F KING MAG, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR SILLY AZZ MIND, THERE WAS, THERE WON’T N NEVER WILL BE ANYONE THAT CAN EVEN STEP TO PAC, THE MAN IS DEAD N GONE N STLL ON TOP SO OVER RATE THAT

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DJ_YT/ DJ_YT

    Does anybody wonder why King is going under. I rep the East all day everyday, but can’t help respecting the body of Tupac’s work. Had he lived would he have fallen off – yes and no. Commercially yes – just look at the crap that makes money today; no – just look at the fire KRS is still spitting in spite of weak sales.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lequain/ Lequain

    Pac’s is top five dead or alive. Every one’s opinion will be different because we all grew up different. I personally was a biggie fan back in the days, but after taking in Pac’s music. I would say Pac is a better lyricist than biggie. But biggie has a better flow.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/QueenTiye7/ QueenTiye7

    You and King are idiots. For one, King magazine isn’t worth s**t. Exploitation of our sistas is what keeps them going. No one cares about their perspective on music.

    And this site has gone so far down hill that its ridiculous… So, again… Who cares??

    Now, Tupac was NOT overrated. Everyone else that you listed, yes… Pac, no. And I’ll tell you why: Pac spoke the truth and had a way of weaving it into a rhyme like he was telling a story. He didn’t need ultra complex rhyme to be a great “mc”. What does mc even mean? Master of Ceremonies… So, shut the hell up. I feel like ya’ll did this for shock value. You want to know who was overrated? Biggie smalls. His hype was because of pac and his beef. And he achieved “legend” status because he was killed right after pac. Pace was intelligent, profound, real, gritty, passionate, talented, charismatic, magnetic. He could rap about anything. You and those idiots wait for more than 10 years after the man dies to talk ish? How utterly lame and pathetic of you both.

    Lil Wayne is the most UNCREATIVE, unintelligent, ignorant so-called rapper I’ve ever had the displeasure of hearing. Damn fag… You can hardly ever understand what the hell he is saying, he rarely makes sense… He isn’t even entertaining to watch… Fat Joe is overrated… But he is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR better than lil wayne’s goblin ass…

    ya’ll need to tighten up…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_JONES069/ MR_JONES069

    I JUST DON’T GET IT, IF 2PAC AN AVERAGE M.C. THEN SO IZ NOTORIOUS B.I.G. YALL BETTER THINK ABOUT IT B4 TALKIN. PEOPLE R SO STUPID LOOK AT THE STATS. NIGGAS ON BIGGIE’S DICK SO HARD THEY 4GOT HE ONLY HAD 2 ALBUMS AND ONE WAS DOUBLE DISC. 2PAC HAD MORE THAN 6 ALBUMS AND A FEW OF THOSE WERE DOUBLE DISC. SO IF U WANNA TALK AVERAGE DONT 4GET TO MENTION BIGGIE CUZ HE WAS AVERAGE TO. HE RAPPED ABOUT THE SAME SHYT PAC DID. PAY ATTENTION STUPID.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/crookedIrida/ crookedIrida

    wow!! using his scale, I guess big daddy kane or kanye west are sub par emcee’s…I mean kurtis blow who?? Listen we might not have been as lyrically agile as other, but his content more than made up for whatever it was you felt he lack…no one could move from political activism, to the social ills of the day, to the most tender and sincere emotions men fee for the fairer sex…with the command or authenticity that Tupac possessed…and he was a dope emcee…he’s dead, let the legend live

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rajarabbit/ rajarabbit

    Alot of people got the nerve to put Biggie above PAC. Not saying biggie was wack by no means, but 2 different rappers. The Ready to Die album is a classic, but thats where the real s**t stops with him. Everything else was fashion, and Diddy time.

    You know PAC had a strong philosophical view on many aspects of life. He is probably the most versatile lyricist I heard. Damn I miss him. I didn’t even know the man and cried a like a baby when he died. His music touched people of all ages and ethnic groups.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/the_punisher_54/ the_punisher_54

    yo its sad cuz most of yall writers must don’t listen to music real trap weezy mite say sum crazy ish but he is witty and clever that wat hip hop was all about expressing cleverness in music form. and for u to say pac is overrated hove said it do u fools listen to music or do u just skim through it pac is tha ultimate thug poet if u can’t relate to pac its prolly cuz u ain’t hood u ain’t grow up fukked up like most of us who feel pac. real deal u mind as well put jay-z up there too the way u talkin and jay my favorite rapper but if u really know music cuz i know music u would have knew that hova made his career off of biggie and big l as well as big daddy kane, but i’m out on dat note

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/baudbwoy/ baudbwoy

    King MAG and all haters…eat a creamy herpes filled dirty crackhead dick with aids on the side. I hope this worked and you finally got one visitor to your whack site.

    AS some of you may know I am a Pac head, love the brotha for what he was doing for people and the game. I’m sick of s**t like this where he gets no respect from fools like the writers and editors over at king mag that can not see beyond their greasy noses. I’m tired of it, Pac was more than a artist he saw the injustice and was fighting for us all using what he knew..lyrics and DUMB haters who want website hits and recognition can not see that. Pac was moving beyond artisan he was becoming a rebel a revolutionist. I’m a fair man I can be impartial and admit to defeat but I have seen and know of NO ONE on the scene that is in PACs league or comes close to his dream and plan. I’m actually not going to waste my time going on, PAC needs no defense lease me defending him, you got your rant. PAC is GOAT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jbull21217/ jbull21217

    tupac is the best is if not the best than he is in the top 5 ever.. anyobody that does not agree then something is wrong with them

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KnowledgeXXIII4/ KnowledgeXXIII4

    Tupac is nice but on a lyrical basis.. He is just average

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/scenariosaga/ scenariosaga

    …ya made the wrong selection by inclusion of Makaveli…take it or blow it Pac and Biggie were the best….but Pac was more philosophical, his songs were inspiring…just like Nas. But I tell you none can think, compose and sing like Tupac…It is not all about saying irrelevant s**ts – say things that make sense…

    My view

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jahaya/ Jahaya

    I agree with King Magazine 100% tupac wasn’t a great Mc. he had a great impact because of what he stood for, he was passionate about what he believe in. however, as a RAPPER he wasnt the best, he dont have a unbelievable flow, and he wasn’t lyrical. However, he knew how to touch people. THE GREATEST RAPPER NO DOUBT IS AND 4EVA WILL BE THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/illliyah1/ illliyah1

    This is coming from a Mag that is going out of business. I see why.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/milkdawg/ milkdawg

    And to think I purchased your magazine. You all have no musical intellect. I guess you assume since Michael Jackson sold more records than Prince he was better. Now anyone who truly appreciates music would ask the question: “how many instruments could either play?” In the case of Tupac…how many songs has he wrote that have had a profound affect on society. Damn, he even wrote Biggie’s first hit.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/C_Lethal/ C_Lethal

    I think 9 or 10 million All Eyes On Me Album sales begs to differ

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DanWatson5678/ DanWatson5678

    King Died round 30 sumthin, and so did malcolm X. 2pac died months before turning 26. So if you listen to the ME AGAINST THE WORLD album, he was only 20-21 years old. Jay Z is 30 sum, Puffy is 30 sumthin- back in the 90′s they rapped bout money,girls,clothes, and cars- same stuff they rap about today- NO CHANGE AT ALL, except the beat. The editor of this King magazine article is obviously from the East Coast- nuff said. Watering down rap for the sake of profit- like I was saying- When He recorded the ME AGAINST THE WORLD album he was only 20-21- and not one social issue was left un-versed throughout the album. Apparently the editor of this article in King Magazine likes to “crank that” and “yuleee”, you like to be “hypnotized” with the flows- but content before craft yo! Biggie and Tupac were friends before his “ME AGAINST THE WORLD” album was released- and if you do alil bit of research, you might find sumthin suprising about the debut album of Biggie Smalls in regards to Tupac’s album. TO ALL YOU CHRISTIANS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY THIS IS A CALL TO COME OUT OF THE DARKNESS. COMMON TERMS USED TODAY IN OUR CULTURE AND MUSIC IS “HOT” and “COLD”- AND AS REVELATIONS STATES,BEING LUKEWARM TO GOD’S WAYS WILL GET YOU DENIED ON THAT GREAT DAY! I ACKNOWLEDGE APPRECIATION WHEN IT IS DUE- YET WE KNOW THROUGH SCRIPTURE THAT EVEN THE MOST TALENTED, BRIGHTEST, AND INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE ARE AS A BLADE OF GRASS TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. HIP HOP IS A TOOL OF THE DEVIL TO CONVINCE BELIEVERS OF CHRIST THAT YOU CAN BE SAVED AND STILL “DO YOU”. BUT WE ARE NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST. YOU CAN RATIONALIZE AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN; TRULY THE MOUNTAIN KNOWN AS “HIP-HOP- THE DEVILS TACTIC”, IS BEING AVOIDED BY SOO MANY SAVED FOLK, BUT THE END IS STILL DESTRUCTION. CAN A SPRING PRODUCE BITTER WATER AND FRESH WATER? BLESSINGS AND CURSES OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH? IT OUGHT NOT BE SO. IT SOO SAD THAT WE ARE SELLING OUT FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY- AND CLAIM THAT WE GOT LOVE FOR THE PEOPLE. BUT A MAN CANNOT SERVE 2 MASTERS, FOR HE WILL LOVE ONE AND DESPISE THE OTHER. YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MAMMON. SELF GLORIFICATION- GLORIFY GOD FOR THE ABILITIES HES GIVEN YOU- YOU SPREADING WHAT YOU DID AND DONE- BUT HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU DID THOSE THINGS WHEN GOD SAID HE OWNS THE CATTLE ON A THOUSAND HILLS. AS BELIEVERS IN CHRIST, WE KNOW THAT THIS EARTH IS NOT OUR PERMANENT DWELLING PLACE. WE ARE STEWARDS, NOT ENTRAPRENEURS. SADLY SO MANY BELIEVERS WILL NOT HEED TO GODS DIVINE GUIDANCE. ISAIAH WAS RIGHT YA KNOW- YOU GOT EYES AND EARS, BUT WILL HEAR AND NOT UNDERSTAND, SEE AND NOT PERCIEVE.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/philly1474/ philly1474

    everyones always talkin about sales please you know the only reason why he sold so much was because of a much bigger fan base just like wanna be milk chocolate eminem the only reason he sold so much because of the bigger fan base ie;(white people)you know no real brothas wasnt buying that s— the young boys buy that eminem bull s**t because they think those wack ass lyrics and music is hip hop listen to some de la soul ,tribe called quest,mos def , just a few to speak of and host of others …which brings us back to the subject at hand tupac was an average mc yes he was because niether tupacs or this new country stuntin bulls**t thats gettin all this air play cant compare to the above mentioned ie; de la, tribe called quest, mos def, ll cool j,rakim,epmd,busta,biggie,jay z,the roots,ect……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/miss5nine/ miss5nine

    Whatever King Magazine, its a good thing you guys are goin out of business. Tupac was the G.O.A.T in my eyes. He will always be the best to me. That man was better than just average, how dare you sit there and degrade him like that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Moment/ Moment

    Can’t remember the last time I bought a KING, but believe me, when I did…It was not for the writers..lol

    I guess they will do anything to sell a magazine today and that is the problem with journalism today…It’s not Facts…It’s all shock value and half the time false reporting always retracted later….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/No_Games_To_Play/ No_Games_To_Play

    Skills and sales have nothing to do with one another. Think Vanilla Ice, JJ Fad, Sir Mix A Lot, the guys who did Macarena, and anyone on the “one hit wonder” lists.

    Jay-Z probably said it best: “If skills sold truth be told, I’d probably lyrically Talib Kweli. Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense, but I did 5 mil, I ain’t been rhymin like Common Sense.. ” Even Biggie, in an interview, said that Pac told him to dumb down his rhymes in order to make more sales, so Pac clearly knew that what he was writing wasn’t the best he could possibly do, but that it would sell records.

    So we’ll never know if Pac was really a better MC than his work. But he clearly was smart enough to know how to make money.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/geta25/ geta25

    REALLY? You put Pac up there? What about 50 Snitch? Baby? Slim Thug? Flo Rida? All the other MCs that don’t drop crazy flows but just find a great beat and make fame off it? Not to mention you really can’t classify all these guys together, rap and hip-hop are two different genres. I guess some people don’t know what a good MC is anyway. And even though I got little love for Wayne overall, even he shouldn’t be on this list. If you listened to enough of his mixtapes and not the mainstream ish they put on the radio, you’d know exactly why. Get a real f*ckin music critic that knows about the old and the new thoroughly to put up a proper opinion, not just some half-@ssed comments about relevancy. Pac’s been dead for years and his influence is still all over the music he worked for, if he was still alive he would’ve retired from the game and still been just as influential or even more to more than just music

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1GLEEK/ 1GLEEK

    No disrespect, but King is on its last legs and its noy for nothing! To include on an overated list is just ludacris and that ain’t no pun!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/JS8420/ JS8420

    damnnn nigga @ DanWatson, u had alot on ur mind…they’ll forever hate on Weezy no matter what he…I actually think Soulja Boy is garbage but his second album is a big improvement from the first…Bow Wow might wanna take notes

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kerryal9/ kerryal9

    To say that tupac was an average MC is just plain stupid. King Magazine is just trying to sell magazine, if they would have said this about
    the music been played today, I Would agree.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rydangel/ rydangel

    it’s easy to hate on a dead man that can’t defend himself. why wasn’t they writing this crap when he was alive and could disprove their claims. they obviously aren’t that good at writing or king magazine would not be going out of business right now.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/britt4lyfe77/ britt4lyfe77

    I agree with most of the rappers that Blackplanet has put up there. However Tupac was a master at his craft. The stuff he would say made sense and it was real. Rappers today don’t do that anymore. They don’t talk about real life and the struggle. It’s all about sex, drugs and money 24/7. That gets real old, real fast.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RocaBlunt_Man/ RocaBlunt_Man

    Ya’ll gotta take Pac off that list,…overrated?? Dude,t eh word overrated are for peeps that get shine but do no work. Pac oput in work in the studio, you can tell by his post humours Albums,..the man was on FIYA!! True, Pac wasn’t thte greatest lyricalist, hell, he wasnt even the greatest rapper ( you people saying Pac was the greatest rappers needs to get off the man’s dick…be real) but that nigga was the most emotional, raw, talented, wordsmith that game ever seen. He changed the game, …for better or for worse is up in the air but that nigga had impact but he always spke the TRUTH about this white dominated SOCIETY against Africans in America. Pac wasn’t overrated,..he earned his ratings. EARNED IT, muthaf**ka, ..blood , sweat and tears. This should be your top MC list BP and KING
    1)KRS-One (I ain’t a fan but that nigga …whooo!!)

    2)Rakim

    3)Nas

    4)Scarface

    5)………..I’m suspect about Jay Z ( but he put that work in and produced hitz).

    THese niggaz are lyrical, right minder MC’s.

    Wayne fans,….wayne aint in his right mind plus all them mixtapes he made, he himself said he was staying up 24 /7 off of codeine syrup,coke, pills and weed, first off all, Pac ain’t use all that, dumb ass and don’t you have your own kids (taller than you) to be role modelin to ass dumb?? Wayne got talent, but start spittin knowledge then I’ll give you props. misleading the ghetto with tha stupid shyt. wORD uP.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CLUBDJ/ CLUBDJ

    YES,I DO THINK 2PAC WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NO.1 RAPPER NOW IF HE WAS AROUND RIGHT NOW,AND WITH CUTS LIKE,HAIL MARY,SO MANY TEARS,I GET AROUND,I AINT MAD AT CHA’,**** THA WORLD,JUST TO NAME A FEW.YOU SEE PAC WAS ON POINT THEN,AND WOULD HAVE BEEN NOW,AND DONT BE SURPRISED IF A NEW SONG POPS UP,HE WAS EVEN A VERY GOOD ACTOR IN THE END, SO DONT GET IT TWISTED, AND I DONT KNOW ABOUT YA’LL BUT I CAN REMEBER EVERYTIME PAC CAME OUT WITH SOMETHING PAC TOOK OVER THE RADIO,STREET,CLUB,AND HOUSE PARTY.WITH TIGHT LYRICS AND UNDERSTANDABLE VERSES,UNLKE MANY OF TODAYS SO-CALLED RAPPERS THAT TRY TO MAKE HOT SONGS WITH HOMEMADE 4 LETTER WORDS THAT TIRE OUT THE MOST DEDICATED FAN YOUNG AND OLD.I’M AN OL’ SCHOOL DJ FROM THE 216,WHO STILL ROCK 2PAC AT EVERY JAM,SO GET OF HIS BACK,AND LET HIS SPIRIT BREATHE.MAY HIS LEGACY LIVE ON,R.I.P.,THE CLUB DJ RON JUAN, COMING FROM THE C TOWN AND I’M OUT. CLUBDJ@BLACKPLANET.COM PEACE!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PRTYBRN/ PRTYBRN

    Hello to the naw “king” was NOT right. Pac was the man and I’m am sure he would have only gotten better with time. Later for ya’ll and the foolishness or perhaps as Diddy would say, b***hassness.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PRTYBRN/ PRTYBRN

    Hell to the naw “king” was NOT right. Pac was the man and I’m am sure he would have only gotten better with time. Later for ya’ll and the foolishness or perhaps as Diddy would say, b***hassness.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/HMDs_wildest/ HMDs_wildest

    That got to be the most stupid thing I ever heard blackplanet post and I been on here for about 8 years. If it wasn’t for tupac most of these rappers want be where they at. Trust me they will be out but label as best rappers.LOL!! I don’t think so. This s**t made me mad I am about to drink me some koolaid on this one. Like dude said Why ya’ll got to talk about a dead man, but when he was alive people didn’t say s**t. Dude that put this Bull together probaly got diss by pac and Mad at the world. One thing about pac to he never invested his time to make bulls**t ass songs and then at the same time rap some real s**t.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SUMMER_SO_FINE/ SUMMER_SO_FINE

    oK, I know I rededicated my life to Christ, but ARE THESE PEOPLE CRAZY!!! PAC WAS MY MAYUN!!!!! There was a time when I only had tupac pictures on my bed room walls back in the day. I didn’t even have any Biggie posters and I’m from the BK. Sorry? He wasn’t just hip-hop and rap, but the brotha had soul with his music. He could switch up and do the r&b thing, he could get sexy with it, like TOSS IT UP, and he didn’t mind acknowledging God in his music. PLUSSSSSSSS the brotha could act. NEVER, EVER, FAR FROM, OUT OF THIS WORLD WAS HE OVER RATED. BP gone make me withdraw my membership!! How dare they even drag something like this on hur!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SUMMER_SO_FINE/ SUMMER_SO_FINE

    I CRIED SO MANY YEARS, AND SHED SO MANY TEARS…………

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/IAmKing27/ IAmKing27

    Mad props, Dan Watson. I am truly feeling that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCasper2001/ BlackCasper2001

    What kind of damn nonsense is that? King magazine needed to go out with a bang. By saying some of the stupidiest mess I have ever heard, they went out in shame. Don’t be ridiculous. Pac is the best to ever do it. The quality of his music surpasses every other MC. Yeah, ok, he didn’t spit like a Rakim, a KRS One or a Nas but he is what embodies hip-hop, originality. That is what it is all about. He had has very own style that no one can duplicate. There are a bunch of lyricists. But if you listen to the content of his lyrics he did have lyrics. He was on a completely different level. I have never heard any MC put their life in perspective the way Pac did. He is the greatest for that reason alone.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hipswang/ hipswang

    Here yall haters go again – Pac was great, he was underrated if u ask me, and ppl caught on way late. He had his own swagga, style, original delivery and wasn’t tryna b like any1 else. Plus he was cute w/a six pack and naturally high energy. Don’t come back 20 yrs later tryna lessen the legacy. We know yall luv 2 hate on any1 great but it was what is was! Can’t take away from it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hipswang/ hipswang

    And yall definitely need 2 take Wayne off the list. I don’t agree w/many of the others on the list but fa sho get Lil Wayne off the list – he STILL hasn’t gotten his just credits. I guess u’ll wanna give him credit after every1 has had enuff time 2 copy n swag-jak ‘im, huh? lol – can’t we get another publication 2 link up w/BET?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hipswang/ hipswang

    And yall definitely need 2 take Wayne off the list. I don’t agree w/many of the others on the list but fa sho get Lil Wayne off the list – he STILL hasn’t gotten his just credits. I guess u’ll wanna give him credit after every1 has had enuff time 2 copy n swag-jak ‘im, huh? lol – can’t we get another publication 2 link up w/BP?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Gettison/ Gettison

    TuPac overrated???? You’ve GOT to be kiddin’ me!!! I’ve found some very talented, very influential rappers out there, but let’s be real: Not a single one can hold a candle to Pac!! (No disrespect intended!) Tupac Shakur was more than a rapper. He was a philosopher, a teacher and while all the other rappers from that era was rapping about their 9mm, their 40s and how many prophylactics they would need for their stable of “women”, Pac was giving positive insight to the plight of Black people everywhere, regardless if it was Eastside or Westside! He gave props to his Mom for being there for him DESPITE the hardships she faced with her own demons! He gave a severe tongue-lashing to the Black fathers out there who abandon their children (and rightfully so!). He told our Black Queens to keep their head up despite the fact that society wants to look upon them as outcast, “Ho’s” who are good for nothing other than making babies and receiving welfare checks!! Could it be that this raggedy-ass site, in it’s quest to sell negative, sensationalist disinformation WANT society to continue thinking of us in that regard? Maybe that’s what they want: To perpetuate the myth that all we’re good for is killing each other, alienating ourselves from our children, living out our lives in a drunken, hazy stupor from which there is no escape. LIKE HELL!!
    Tupac taught ME a lot…. gave me hope when I thought there wasn’t any!! So keep up your feeble attempts at genocide. I’ll continue to listen to the BALLAD OF A DEAD SOLDIER!! Rest in peace, my brother!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MENIMAN/ MENIMAN

    TUPAC IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL RAPPERS OF ALL TIME. HE IS ONE OF MANY RAP ICONS. WE STILL TALK ABOUT HIM 13 YEARS LATER. THAT MAN’S WORDS TOUCHED PEOPLES SOULS. NAME 1 AVERAGE RAPPER THAT CAN DO THAT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mallori/ mallori

    pac was the greatest rapper alive…and still the geatest dead or alive…..when a man can go in the studio and come out with numerous of hits and you can play his cd front to back without skipping a song ……he is a lyrical beast know that……..pac deserves the up most respect if you ask me we don’t give him enough credit….the man is a beast know that

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/j-townsbigdog/ j-townsbigdog

    pac an overrated m.c.? how bout king being an overrated magazine? b.i.g. was no great lyracist either but his delivery style was still captivating! it’s been over 10 years since they both were tankin out the game but honestly in 10 more years which do you think will be remembered? to me personally pac will forever be the G.O.A.T.!for the simple fact that his lyrics even though they are 10 years old are still relavent in todays society. can anyother rapper say that? of course not!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MENIMAN/ MENIMAN

    IF BOB MARLEY WERE STILL ALIVE WOULD YOU STILL BE ABLE TO PUT ON YOUR BOB MARLEY T-SHIRT, YOUR BOB MARLEY JEANS, AND YOUR BOB MARLEY BOOTS AND FLY DOWN TO ORLANDO HAVE LUNCH AT THE BOB MARLEY CAFE’ THEN DRIVE DOWN TO MIAMI AND GO TO A BOB MARLEY FESTIVAL? …..DOES HIS ICONIC STATUS TAKE AWAY FROM HIS CREATIVITY?…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MENIMAN/ MENIMAN

    ALL EYES ON ME= 9X PLATINUM
    THE DON KILLUMINATI= 4X PLATINUM
    ME AGAINST THE WORLD= 2X PLATINUM

    DOES THAT SOUND AVERAGE TO U?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kronique_smok/ kronique_smok

    Only people who don’t have the mental capacity to understand Pac would say something blasphemous like Pac was just an Average MC. That’s nonsense!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LaCessamino/ LaCessamino

    I think its funny when a nigga talk a lotta s**t about someone whos deaed and cant defend themselves or offer a retort. If you was a real journalist you woulda said this s**t when he was alive to his face.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LaCessamino/ LaCessamino

    I think its funny when a nigga talk a lotta s**t about someone whos dead and cant defend themselves or offer a retort. If you was a real journalist you woulda said this s**t when he was alive to his face.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ClarkKentBKNY/ ClarkKentBKNY

    Hammer, Nelly and Vanilla Ice have all gone multi-platinum and influenced millions, too. Are they NOT average?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cleveland153/ Cleveland153

    YOU DONT TALK BOUT AN AVERAGE ARTIST 12 YEARS AFTER HE’S BEEN GONE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DMV2CA/ DMV2CA

    That why King magazine is shutting down. Pac the best to ever do it. I’m a Biggie fan also, but if Pac overrated then so is he. I can’t see how a person can be the greastest to ever do it and he only put out 2 albums. That like Jordan only playing 2 of the Bulls championship seasons and calling him the greatest.

    Expecting him to flow somewhat near Biggie or Jay-Z is stupid. That wasn’t Pac style. Pac and Nas styles are more similar then Pac and Biggie.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blacktino007/ blacktino007

    The title to this Article is bogus. Tupac , as an M.C, is one of the best and or GREATEST to EVER do it! That being said, what the article fails to touch on, is what is “the Definition of an M.C”. Tupac Fit the description in everyway possible , of the quintessential M.C. . He “Moved the Crowd” with lyrics that evoked a strong emotional reaction from its listeners. That cannot be underestimated nor devalued. Seriously, people Read the article and for a short moment, sit back and THINK and remember…

    Now on to the analysis or “argument” that the writers are trying to convey : Tupac, in terms of lyrical acrobatics, WAS an average to above average lyrical technician. He was like a once in three lifetimes-Slugger that only displayed average ‘technical boxing’ skills – with a few matches were he showed techincal brilliance. It was because he didn’t HAVE TO! This man/machine could get the knockout & win buy keeping it simple. And thats what Tupac is and was : The empitome of the Beauty of (relative) Simplicity.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kenneth01/ Kenneth01

    Tupac shakur, overrated, HELL NO! The urban daily wants to judge the urban landscape on artists and bars and the way hip-hop causes us to judge an emcee off of his lyrics and his status, impact+lyrics+ moving the crowd=an emcee. How many artists can say that they will be remembered 10+ years later as the goat? None! Tupac was never overrated, a lot of people through the urban daily judges an artist off of lyrical delivery, or what he has to say on the mic through metaphors, or punchlines. Tupac, to me, being from the south, was the reason for me even becoming a rap artist because he was everything that made an emcee. I just think urban daily need to stop and smell the impact that this man had on all people rather than worry about the slickness of the microphone. He kept it real, HOW MANY RAPPERS DO THAT NOWDAYS ANYWAY? NONE, THEY ALL ARE A BUNCH OF KISS ASS, MONEY HUNGRY PUNKS, NO REAL TALK, MORE LIKE GET MY MONEY, F**K HIP-HOP AND MOVE ON. URBAN DAILY, OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE WORLD AND SEE HOW TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF MOST OF THE ARTISTS IN HIP-HOP, THEN GET BACK TO ME WHEN Y’ALL DO THAT!!!!!! I’M OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LondonLeoLee/ LondonLeoLee

    First up people being a great recording/music artist don’t make you a great MC, and if you know the difference between rap and Hip-Hop being a great rapper or poet doesn’t make you a great MC either.

    Did Pac have amazing rhyme skills = NO

    Was he one of the most creative MC’s = NO

    Did he invent any new rhyme flows = NO

    Was he verbally dexterous say like a Big L, Jay-Z, Pharoahe Monch and many other rappers to name a few = NO

    I could go on stating the case for why he is overrated as an MC, but the point is even though he wasn’t the greatest MC, to some of you that are fans he will be one of the best music artists and thats all that should matter, don’t disrespect the truly great MC’s by putting Pac up there with them, because if you know your hip-Hop history you will know the guys that invented this music, created flows and rhyme styles.

    Pac was probably as famous for his exploits off record than on. And just because someone sells a lot of music don’t mean their the best, it just means their popular, i.e. the term Pop music, I tend to find most of the people into Pac aren’t into Hip-Hop, but they don’t mind a bit of Rap music.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ramses_NY/ Ramses_NY

    An M.C. is a “Microphone Controler” Tupacs legacy spans the globe. There are people in certain parts of Africa without electricity, that know who Pac is. The people at King and this site, that cant recognize Pacs brilliance are clowns. And shouldnt be allowed near a compture. All you need to do, is listen to Pacs third verse on “I aint mad at ya,” the video version, to hear his depth. Clowns.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kenneth01/ Kenneth01

    FORGET KING MAGAZINE: PAC IS THE GOAT!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kenneth01/ Kenneth01

    LONDONLEOLEE, ARE U CRAZY, YOU NEED TO SHOOT YOURSELF, NAME ONE EMCEE THAT HAS THE TRUTH AND THE IMPACT IN THEIR LYRICS AND LYRICAL CONTENT LIKE TUPAC, NONE!!! IT WAS NOT LIKE POPULARITY OR FAN LOVE ITS ABOUT HIP-HOP, AND HIP-HOP IS ABOUT MAKING AN IMPACT THROUGH FANS AND DEFINING THE CULTURE, AND TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR WAS THE KING FOR THAT!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!! IF YOU REALLY KNOW HIP-HOP AND MUSIC THAT FEELS YOUR SOUL, THEN YOU WOULD REALIZE WHY THIS MAN IS BELOVED BY ALL HIS FANS!!! REAL TALK!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TruLoe/ TruLoe

    Now I remember why I never spend my money on King magazine. The editors and writers are weak in spirit weak in writing talent and just overall weak topics. While we are at it let’s talk about a few more dead artist say ummmm Elvis you cyborgs. Get a clue Mr Beyonce is skilled but doesn’t he swipe music from others. Which is funny because is there even an artist out there today that at some point have not swiped a few beat from a Pac song so much for King on that one if he was average ummm you top emcee’s sure like to sample his work even a decade plus later. Ja rule tried to be him, And 50 thinks he is

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LondonLeoLee/ LondonLeoLee

    Kenneth to quote you, “HIP-HOP IS ABOUT MAKING AN IMPACT THROUGH FANS AND DEFINING THE CULTURE”, that to me shows your ignorance, I don’t know what your background in the music is or how much knowledge you have of it and although Hip-Hop can mean different things to different people I’ve never read a definition of it so far off the mark.
    Hip-Hop has been about skills since day one, ego’s because every real MC wants to prove himself better than the next. Whether you wanna be the best MC, DJ, B-Boy etc, it’s about skills, and them skills aren’t just as simple as rhyme content, delivery, flow, structure and more play a part, as a fan of Hip-Hop and I know many many like minded people with similar backgrounds to mine, we pretty much unanimously agree Pac is wack.
    I come from almost 30 years of listening loving, collecting and being a part of Hip-Hop and all it’s facets and some of those facets don’t fit in with your profile of it.
    I have over 7000 hip-hop records in my collection dating from 79 onwards, I even have a couple of Pac records (some of my least played records in collection)
    Now there might be a lot of artist out there that have something valid to speak about, but if they got no skills, can’t rhyme well, rap over whack used beats, then they not likely to make it onto my turntables or onto my iPod. Pac is one such artist, the likes of Public Enemy had more truth to speak than Pac ever did, and they did it in an original never to be matched way, The likes of Rakim, KRS, Melle Mel, and so many more MC’s produce real Hip-Hop, Tupac should have stayed down with Digital Underground because they had talent.
    p.s. I don’t need to use caps to make my words clear, they speak for themselves.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LondonLeoLee/ LondonLeoLee

    ohh just to add, i checked your profile Ken and see your only 23 yrs old, so I wouldn’t expect you to know what real Hip-Hop was about because you been brought up on fake gansta ish, and that song playing on your page is an example of what’s wrong with the music today, just another rapper talking about the hood, a dime a dozen and with an rnb singer and weak beats. end of story!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sexycristal30/ sexycristal30

    PAC IS THE MAN HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN. HE HAS A BUNCH OF FOLLOWERS. NOW THEY TRYIN TO START SOME S**T WITH MY MAN. THEY WISH THEY HAD SPITTING SKILL AS PAC. THAT CAN REACH A ENTIRE BREED OF FOLK. AND STILL DOING SO. DUDE WAS SMART THAN A B***H. HOW OLD WAS HE WHEN HE SO CALLED EXPIRED. HE WAS BOOK SMART. HE COULD SPELL HE COULD WRITE. PAC SPOKE FOR EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD WHO COULD NOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. SO GET YO MIND RIGHT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cestleon/ cestleon

    Hip hop is aa watered down, shallow version of what it once was. Nowadays it ain’t about the struggles of the streets. These jive assed record companies basically are trying to cater to what the “suburban kids” like. That’s why there’s little sociopolitical subject matter in it now. Viacom wants people to party and get drunk all the time and pretend that the world isn’t f**ked up. That’s why Tupac is so revered. Most of these people who are on his nuts probably cant tell you about 2pacolypse now or strictly. All they know about him is his s**t he did with death row. Not to take anything from Asher Roth, but the only reason he is doing well is because of this “hipster rap” s**t that is en vogue right now, oh and he’s white. It so funny how Lay-Z, Fool J, and these other “legends” have been in the game for so long and are so loved, but when you dissect the majority of their music it’s all self indulgent BULLS**T. As a matter of fact Jay-Z was beaten in a battle by f**kin’ Bizzy Bone of all people! Li’l Brain I mean Wayne has hot beats, but how the hell is he the greatest? He needs to put the tussionex down and get a clue. He got punked by 50centsinsecure ass! And I agree with this list totally. Most of these fraudulent bastards on here are either has beens who cling on to whatever is hot or they’ve got about 20seconds left on their 15 minutes. Rick Ross? Please…. how in the hell can a C.O. be a dope dealer? The industry needs to quit doing this cookie cutter clone crap, stop exploiting the kids and start making decent music or give decnt musicians a chance and maybe the bootlegging and file sharing may go down. I would mention souljah boy since he’s making MY region look horrible, but I just did him a service by mentioning his wack ass at all.

    By the way 2pac and biggie are as dead as subroc and proof. Those who say otherwise need to realize that #1 their picsare in celebrity morgue; #2 they were mortal who were just as capable of getting blown away as fact as any of us; and #3 y’all look about as ignorant as those rednecks who keep seeing Elvis’ fat ass!

    DONE!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cestleon/ cestleon

    Oh and rest in peace Big L. since we are on the subject of overrated emcees.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cestleon/ cestleon

    and Dilla too (although he WAS talented unlike the rest of these bozos)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cestleon/ cestleon

    s**te I made a typo I meant to say “as fast”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NEEKACINQUE/ NEEKACINQUE

    “OK WHO THE HELL IS WRITTING THIS S**T”… For years its been a struggle over who is better Tupac or Biggie let me tell you all this both rappers are from new York, so get ya damn facts straight, he moved to the south before juice, because of the fact that the famous “NYPD” (their all 718 anyway) kept harassing him so the whole thing about him being from the south is a lie did any of you people actually Liston to his music or did you all Liston at it. Mr. Tupac Shakur was above all a poet for rebel times. Indeed he was an innovator; he spoke the truth about was going on in society in that point of time, being that he was a product of the streets and the son a black panther in which meant that he was a black panther himself he spoke a lot about what was going on. He was indeed a true to life original artist. From his lyrics to his style of clothing to his tattoos which lead the way for many of rappers of today, I would say that the lost of a great rapper/poet is a lost for any society no matter who you are. Truly his lyrics were a bit harsh for the younger listeners to follow. But in all he was the best during his time here. And that my friends is what you should give a person credit for being the best at what they do while they was here his legacy lives on in his music as well as biggie, the only problem is biggie is celebrated by his love ones, (family friends & other artist) while most of Mr. Shakur’s crew family friends other artist are either lock up or past away leaving Ms. Shakur to handle the burden of he son passing. She’s doing the best that she can with it its not easy to carry the burden of a past child no matter what age they are, as for Ms. Wallace she has a lot of help from ever one especially Sean “puff daddy” Combs or Puffy or P diddy is what he is now called who vow never to let his memory die as a result of people ignorance to the lost of his close friend and “a great rapper” is the reason why no one could forget him an when you mention his name you hear the others name as well and vice versa, so in a since neither of them are forgotten and will never be for that fact.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NEEKACINQUE/ NEEKACINQUE

    call it what you want to, be it as it may Tupac has never been an average emcee and if you compare him to any of todays weak as emcee’s then you are dead worng.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/HARD-TIME/ HARD-TIME

    You dont know music!!! and its a shame that someone would bring this up now!!!! R.I.P. 2Pac and Biggie!!!! I wish i could sit down face2face with the a*****e who wrote that s**t!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mrmaharris/ mrmaharris

    Is King Magazine responsible for this they must be experiencing financial difficulties and need some bailout money Tupac was clearly one of the best of all time why are we having this conversation it’s insane whoever it is please stop hatin on this man he gone now let it rest i will not waste many words on this topic this site just wants their page views to go up.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/philly1474/ philly1474

    tupacs style is what made him a good rapper thats what people arent seeing its his combination of music and lyricism that made his songs sound good after anyalizing this subject its what people liked me myself i like something a little more intelligent ie; de la soul but hey thats what i like i think ther the greatest rappers of all time but you know some peoples minds dont work that fast they want something simple ie; tupac to me an average mc to others the g.o.a.t.its really what you prefer …….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mrboneman2005/ mrboneman2005

    i use to like king mag,but after this tupac dis yall b***h asses aint gettin another of my money,how the f**k could even say that pac wasnt the best,is it all in a f**k hook,did you really listen to his words,his ability to use those words to us as a people,u f**ks donr understand and i guest you think that jay-z is the best of al time f**k your magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the writer who wrote this s**t!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nypower/ nypower

    I dont think Pac nor Ross should be on that list,but everyones entitled to their opinion an we as civilized people should respect that…RIP Pac u still the man!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThaJ/ ThaJ

    “Thought provoking lyrics in thought provoking times”
    Thats what Pac brought I will always remember him for what he would have accomplished not for where he was at the time of his passing he was on to something. He will always be the biggest common denominator in Rap music and film no one will ever know how great he would have become. I guarantee you though you can take most of his songs and apply them to any given situation we may be going through today and they still remain relevant.
    When you cut through the style and hear the substance you will feel Pac.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/The-Chocolate-Man/ The-Chocolate-Man

    MMMmmmm!I personally like Rihanna because she is iconic/in many ways talented/attractive among other things. On the other hand although I dont think Rihanna is a str8 lesbian-Gay. I do beleive the girl is either bi-sexual or bi-curious. Come to think of it, if she loves it both ways? That makes her even more intresting. Rihanna girl you are WANTEDDDD! The Bsharpp2 “Rihanna Shakee” video on myspace/youtube about Rihanna/Chris Brown/Janet Jackson/Etc (even Oprah is in it) brakak it down perfectly that Rihanna could very well be bi-sexual or bi-curious. Check it out!

    http://www.myspace.com/bsharpp2musically

    (youtube: Bsharpp2 music videos)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Grand_69/ Grand_69

    tupac is one of the best rappers and should not have been on the list. This has nothing to do with east coast or west coast or whatever. Ya’ll should seat back and listen to his lyrics and maybe ya’ll will learn something out of it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BabyGyrl810/ BabyGyrl810

    WTF! simply put…PAC WAS THE MAN!! AND STILL IS THE MAN! i like biggie…but in my opinion Pac is the best rapper dead…and he would have and could have accomplished great things had he not been murdered…there would be no Jay-Z…well atleast he wouldnt get the title of best rappr alive…f**k king mag…bp…and everybody who aint rollin’ with Pac!!
    Wun Luv Pac!! U still da greatest!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/M_L_S_/ M_L_S_

    There is no greatest rapper dead or alive!! 2Pac, Biggie, Big L, Big Pun are all some of the greats. They were all iconic and great in there own way. He should have never been on that list and that shows that King Magazine is just plain stupid..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AllBizSumPlay_1/ AllBizSumPlay_1

    (LMMFAO) This Is Obviously A Concentrated Effort 2 Create Controversy 2 Generate Publicity And Sales .
    But 2 Skip Over Others Who SERIOUSLY Wouldn’t Be Even Mentioned In The Same Sentence (If It Were Not His Demise) … Insidioussssssss ;v)
    Question ????? If My Man Was Just AVERAGE , How The Fucc Was Able 2 DESTROY ALL Of The Same Chosen By Default Characters You Work So Hard 2 Exalt Above The 1 .
    Your Attempts Are Noble …
    But Never The Less Futile …
    History Doesn’t Lie …
    The Same Thing Cube Said Can Also Be Applied 2 Pac .
    “Before Any Of U Guppiez Get Heart, N*gga Rewind My Part ” !!
    _____________________________________________His Last 2 Albums B4 He Died Against AnyBody U Got On Your Fraudulent List .
    _____________________________________________Bored With Your Standard , Yarrrrrrrn !!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/M_K_A_09/ M_K_A_09

    This is sheer madness on behalf of this magazine.Tupac was the first rapper to bring real knowledge to the streets.The first to give props to sisters and mothers.Truly gave a lot of rappers their style,still used today and one of the top 5 mc’s to ever hit the mic hands down.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LisaMarie87/ LisaMarie87

    Pac was and always will be the best!! Fucc KING… this magazine committed suicide by sayin that s**t!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LisaMarie87/ LisaMarie87

    Pac was FAR from average. He was the best. Still is the best. Ain’t nobody out there that doesn’t know at least 10 of his songs. If I see KING mag in stores with this article in it, I’mma take every issue and tear this article out and throw the s**t in the trash.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/romanrlc/ romanrlc

    AT THA END OF THESE ARGUEMENT PAC WAS AN STILL IS THA KANG OF THA HOLE WEST COAST AND SOUTH SO ANY RAPER YALL PUT IN THA SAME CONVOE WILL ONLY SAY THEY WAS THA KING OF NEW YORK. PLUS HE GOT LIKE 5 CLASSIC CD’S AND COUNTLESS CLASSIC SONGS LIKE “U AINT NEVA HAD A FREIND LIKE ME” THA REALIST NIGGA FO SHOW REGUARDLESS OF WHAT ANY HATER GOT TO SAY DICTOIN IS WHAT MAKES A PERSON NO MATTER WHAT U DO IN LIFE!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/celycel1/ celycel1

    king magazine is ran by white people. a white man dont know shyt about who are, and what we are. king magazine sucks white girl breast after she smoked crack.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lyrics-4life3/ Lyrics-4life3

    Man f**k king magazine got to be from the east coast to say some s**t like that, and as for yall haters hating on pac sayin he’s not the greatest yall need to be a dam shame of yall selves, i been followin hip hop since i was very young in the 80′s and i never heard a rapper wit flow and influence like pac, the man still kickin these new niggaz asses today and he been dead 13 years, i mean thats like sayin michael jordan wasnt the greatest bball player sayin pac wasnt the greatest rapper, hip hop really needs u pac and u truly missed cuz rest and peace!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/spliffedup/ spliffedup

    Its tru. There are plenty of rappers who flow better than pac. Pacs strength was in his message. But as far as pure lyrical flow and skill. He was very overrated. His technique was simple @ best. Facts are facts

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dic2bigNhuge/ Dic2bigNhuge

    The Thing about Niggaz is they never stop. The only time they quit is when it’s something actually hard to do like becoming successful. The Man is Dead leave him Alone ! Stop trying to discredit the man. He died over u niggaz and that hip hop shyt when he couldve jus moved away and still been here.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SexyNavyChick/ SexyNavyChick

    Honestly I love 2pac and he is still sexy but my question for KING magazine is WOULD YOU EVEN POST BULLS**T LIKE THAT IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE? no i didnt agree with everything he rapped about but thats what made him unique and special was his words,poems and lyrics.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rainydaytounge/ rainydaytounge

    fuk king magazine and that bulls**t list here go my fuking lizt ya b***hes!!! THE 3 MOST BULLS**T ROCK N ROLL ARTIST@@@ 1 ELVIS PRESLEY- stole songs and a f**kn addict honkey hero f**k the other 2

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/game-tight/ game-tight

    lets be real. if you can say that pac aint the best hands down then you have no respect for rap music. period. his flow is what put him on. rappers always was spitting bout the same s**t pac was. the difference was in his delivery… his flow. and dont even try to comapare wit biggie. B.I.G. was never on no real s**t until pac schooled him. his death only validated his music. nuff said… RIP pac and biggie

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Allen_BOY/ Allen_BOY

    OMG How can u say PAC’s flow wuz overrated! ” I AINT NO KILLA BUT DON’T PUSH ME//REVENGE IS LIKE THA SWEETEST JOY NEXT 2 GITTIN P*SSY” He was a true lyricist, and he knew where he was comin from. Half these rappers now, u can’t tell if they from tha streets or was born wit a silver spoon in they mouth let them n all they foes tell it. R.I.P. PAC

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/romanticwarr1or/ romanticwarr1or

    Good List

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jmarquezstl/ Jmarquezstl

    I wasnt even going to justify this bulls**t with a response, Tupac was the greatest ever, hands down. Biggie I think as much as he was skilled, why after just two studio ablums, one of which was kindve average, is there any dispute about who was the best? Look, when did using a lot of metaphors in your rap become the sole definition of lyrisist? Pac did some of that, but the beauty of Pacs music was the story telling, even back with 2paclypse now and put on soldiers story, close your eyes and listen to it and if you cant see the picture hes painting, youre blind and that was just in the beggining. If you dont love Tupac, you dont love hip-hop….its just that simple, Tupac embodied everything that Hip hop is…hip hop was…and what hip hop should be. From the good the bad to the ugly. Yea some s**t he shouldnt have said, but he was always honest. He spoke what he felt and when you heard it you felt it, even if you loved Puffy and Biggie and Nas, if you heard it and it made you mad, you felt it and thats what it was designed to do. How many times did we hear a young black male, cursed since birth, headed for them packed jails, crack sales…you know if you love Pac, that was his Michael Jackson “HE HE” and every song he said it in, you felt it. Sometimes there is beauty and there is genius in simplicity. They study the mans music on university campuses around the country. King magazine is over rated, its soft porn with no journalistic intergrity and a real fan of hip hop would never disprespect Pac and damn sure wouldnt put Pac on a list with f**king Jim Jones.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/thadarknight2/ thadarknight2

    I dont go by what a magazine says as far as rating MC’s I grew up in tha hood and 2pac was tha bomb period and I live on tha east coast when we hung out at night outside in tha summer time we got blunted drank Hennesey and played 2pac all night and every hood i traveled to has a 2pac collection that they pump also so avarage huh i think not all these people cant be wrong 2pac tha G.O.A.T R.I.P

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tallerthanyou/ tallerthanyou

    I love the list EXCEPT 2pac. Dude definitely is top 3 in anybodys list. You guys finally figured fat joe out, thank you

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AcuteShyness/ AcuteShyness

    King magazine is folding and this is just to sell a few on their way out. I can tell you I sure as hell don’t count flow and schemes as well as I would lyrical content. Tupac’s words were real and reflected real life, it was not some made up bulls**t with punch lines for shock value, this aint battle rap. When I want to listen to real hip hop and real words being spoken I always listen to Tupac.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/daniel39208/ daniel39208

    OH MY GOD I CANT BELIEVE EVEN BLACKPLANET WOULD PUT THIS GARBAGE ON HERE. I SHOULDN’T EVEN WASTE MY TIME WRITING THIS BUT I AM A DIE HARD TUPAC FAN. ALL U HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN TO HIS LYRICS THATS IT. MANY PEOPLE DONT EVEN LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS. HE WAS A F**KING GENIUS MAN END OF STORY! THERE WILL NEVER BE A BETTER LYRICSTS, RAPPER IN THIS WORLD. PAC GOT ME THROUGH SO MUCH. I RESPECT BIGGIE AND ALL BUT MOST OF HIS S**T WAS ABOUT MONEY AND HOES AND CARS AND S**T. I COULDN’T RELATE TO THAT S**T. I DON’T CARE WHERE UR FROM IF U DON’T LIKE PAC UR A F**KING IDIOT AND SHOULD BE SLAPPED FOR EVEN HAVING PAC S NAME IN UR MOUTH U F****TS. MAN IM DONE RIP TO MY SOLDIER PAC!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lilswagg89/ lilswagg89

    Yo real Talk KING or whoever agree witt thiss bullshiit must b outta they fukkin mind. Pac was tha greatest n has been till now. he said tha deepest shiit n itt was raw n reall at tha same time. no1 ever been able 2 reach hiiis depth he mite not have al tha metaphors n shiit likke wayne butt I mean fuuk how more real cuuld an emcee gett. 2 me that is wats more important N u muthafukkas obviously ddnt thnk 2 even say some dumm shiiit likke tht.Mah NIGGA was thought provokin, more so than any 1 who has touched tha mic n itts funny cuzz thts common sence. lol king really gott loose att tha lipp witt thiis 1.Pac Revolutionized rap an “Average” MC can’t do tht. king gtta b sayn thiiis 2 gett sales cuzz any real rap head knows tha bizness. how many rappers 2day live wat they say n not juss b4 tha deal butt during hiis whole career ya diig? like that nigga waz wayne status THEN n went 2 tha hoods of oakland 2 lett niggaz hear hiss shiit n iff he was still here more than half tha rappers n tha game wouldnt b able 2 have a career cuzz they brand of hip hop wuudnt b aloud!!!! n tht’s real tlk. He Mite Not been somebody 2 fear n a freestyle battle yaimean biggie gott itt lokkd wen it come 2 that butt end of tha day wat tha man hadd 2 say was better than any freestlye or rap anybody else has spit. Imma leave itt at tht

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lilswagg89/ lilswagg89

    Gtta say 1 More thng I agree witt lisa marie87 FUUUUKKK KINGGG. yall muhfukkas really commited suicide wittt thiis 1. I Ddnt even thnk thiss title could cross any body mind itt don’t even look right in a sentence. WTF was ya’ll thnkn bout???????? HIP HOP HEADS WE CANT LETT THIIIS 1 RIDE!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/davettalashley/ davettalashley

    King is going out of business. So much for their valued opinions.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/raushan/ raushan

    F**K KING, F**K ANYBODY COMMENTS WHO DIDNT THINK PAC WAS THE GREATEST HOW MANY MOTHERF**KER RAPPERS U KNOW HIT UR SOUL SO HARD TEARS CAME OUT UR EYES?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SassyBoo/ SassyBoo

    are u freaking serious?! Pac’s a legendary…anyone knows that!!! enff said!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ms_Shay402/ Ms_Shay402

    You know i can’t even believe that someone or people would even think like that ya’ll mf’s wouldn’t have said this bulls**t if he were still here, king mag ya’ll mf are sick and desperate. F**king unbelievable i hope ya’ll go broke

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/libra_luv06/ libra_luv06

    WHAT? PUT ANYBODY BAC THEN LYRICS NEXT 2 PAC’S..WHO COULD OR DID MATCH THAT WHILE HE WAS AROUND?NOBODY..SO MUCH THOUGHT,POETIC,REAL..FUK WHAT ANY HATAS OR KING SAY..HE CANT B TOO WACK NIGGZ STILL PUTTIN HIS S**T ON DEY SONGS!! LOL GIT OUTTA HERE!!SIT ON DA CORNER AND PISS ON YA SELF KING MAG!! LOLOLOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/alpha111906/ alpha111906

    I was probably one of the biggest “rap” fans until Pac died. I listened to Pac before he signed with Deathrow. When he was a backup in Digital Underground. The reason why I loved him because he could do a song about uplifting black people on track 1…then gangsta life track 2…then a reflection song on track 3…and they would all make you listen to every word…only LL, Biggie, and Chuck D could match him. Eminem…gets honorable mention with them…but you should have put 50 cent in that list…that bro can’t rap at all…but like one bro said…thanks for mentioning fat joe and lil wayne…sorry asses.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/3iiiE/ 3iiiE

    ahhh,and u media guyz do it again, we all know pac is one of the greatest on a list of many…stop that…u know it too, you just wanted too get tha most responses this week riiight,just tha opposite, most people prolly won,t even comment on this article, there,z not but a handful of songz that pac was on that will not keep anybody in the world,s attention.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/aladybme/ aladybme

    KING’S OR WHO EVER ELSE FEELS THAT PAC WAS NOT THE GREATEST AND PLACES ANOTHER PUNK ASS JIM JONES AND WEEZY MOTION THAT THEY ARE MUST OF FELL AND CRACK THEY MF HEADS. YOU CORNEY FOR LISTENING TO SUCH GARBAGE AND IF THEY CHECK.. LISTENING TO WEEZY LOWERS YOUR MF IQ’S. FOR THAT BS POSTED PROVES THAT CORNEY MF’S IN THE RAP GAME TODAY HAVE LOWERED IQ’S.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lamar-linx336/ lamar-linx336

    yo are u f**kas airheads????pac should not even be put in this circle of clowns,yo these guys thats listed are suckas that need money and a bodyguard to safing helf them embrace there gangsta pacs a legend with real content storylines these others are fakes period

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/deshawzn/ deshawzn

    Whatever he’s still relevant 13 years later and ya’ll proved it by dedicating an article to him!! Pac greatest of all time!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RED_Zone_2009/ RED_Zone_2009

    Let me tell you something, 2Pac put out 5 albums and never went soft. If you wanted to add someone to the list add Jay-Z. Every album he ever released was garbage.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Frenzy_Hunter/ Frenzy_Hunter

    To each their own.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/grinchmug/ grinchmug

    YOU EAST COAST HATERS ARE A TRIP, ITS ONE THING TO HATE ON THE MAN WHILE HE WAS LIVING, BUT TO TRY TO DOWN HIM NOW IS B***H S**T. WHO THE F**K TRYIN TO MAKE A BIG ANYTHING RECORD NO DISRESPECT TO EITHER BIGGS BUT EVERYBODY THAT’S NOT ON THE EAST COAST AGREES WHOLE HEARTEDLY 2PAC IS THE GREATEST.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/grinchmug/ grinchmug

    I KNOW YOU B***H NIGGA’S WISH BIGGIE WAS THE BEST, BUT WHEN THEY PASSED NEW YORK CRIED FOR BIG POPPA AND AMERICA CRIED FOR 2PAC. THE PRISONS AROUND THE COUNTRY WERE CRYING WITH NO SHAME FOR PAC, EVERY B***H CRIED FOR DAYS, NO OTHER RAPPER HAD SUCH AN INFLUENCE OVER A NATION. EVEN HIS FOES CRIED F**K KING I LIKED THAT MAG B4 THIS DUMB ASS S**T.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mrbluntforce2/ mrbluntforce2

    who are the people coming up with these topics, they must be white, i am convinced…….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/fresh2def73/ fresh2def73

    I totally agree with the brother that said that you all are just writing this to sell mags and to get hits, We all know that Tupac Amaru Shakur was and is one of the most devastating rappers that the rap community has ever seen. Point blank period!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/juicymamax0x0/ juicymamax0x0

    eyy king magazine just lost all my respect real talk. this man was and still is the greatest to ever be on the scene. that is some straight up garbage that they would even put him in the same list as soulja boy and bow wow. who wrote this s**t fo real ? this man been dead how long and yall wanna disrespect him. f**k yall

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